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We are not fully ready to answer questions in a timely manner as we are not officially open, but we will do our best. The subject of intentional breeding or meat rabbits is prohibited. The answers provided on this board are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. What are we about? Please read about our Forum Culture and check out the Rules. I am kind of doubtful of the quality of the hay if you are finding weeds in it. Perhaps you can post a photo of the hay? That will really help. Brown hay is normal, but it is a problem if it is moldy maybe get a really good, close picture of some brown strands and I or others will be able to tell you. It should smell fresh too, not musky. If it smells musky it is no good at all. It should also be free of dust, for the most part. Dust pretty much always equals mold from my experience. As for storing it, a lot of people use a large storage container. A garbage can would certainly work though, as long as no moisture can get in. It would pretty much be the same thing, just a different shape. Also, do you know what the hay was supposed to be for? Horse hay tends to be higher quality, but you do have to be careful what you are buying there too. Some brown in the hay is not necessarily a bad thing. If you see any dark black spots on strands or it smells musty, that would be bad. It sounds like you got a large amount of hay. Full bales? If so the strands will definitely be longer than the kind you will find in the bags in the pet store because the hay strands that are put in smaller bags and mini bales will have been cut shorter. Also depending on the cut of Timothy 1st cut being courser than second cut then you may notice a texture difference. There is actually different types of Orchard, some softer and wider, while others may have strands than are thinner. I think a cardboard box OR a large cotton laundry bag would be good options. The flower part will be visible and turn to dust easily. The timothy just looks like grass, thin and more flexible, it has no flowers and is greener than the alfalfa. I bought one bale this year that is mixed for my youngest bun. Now that my youngest eats timothy I use the alfalfa in litterboxes. My rabbits eat some of it but mostly it gets peed up. It is nice enough in the litterboxes because the stalks are strong enough to form a dry grid for the rabbits to sit on, and the pee just runs through. However, it does nothing for absorbing odor. I am glad that someone started this thread! I have a box of hay that a farmer friend gave me and there are a lot of weeds and stuff in it too. I have a box of alfalfa and this is different. The hay she gave me is horse quality hay that she gives to her horses. Does anyone have pics of good vs. Well, bad hay would be hay that is rotten in any way or contaminated with thistles or other toxic weeds. A little birdsfoot trefoil hay treat can be a pick-me-up for a rabbit in the winter when fresh greens are harder to find even in the produce section. Horse hay maybe a coarser cut than for rabbits but it should still be mainly timothy. I hay for horses on our farm. We have a mixture of different hays to include some types of flowers that are also good for horses. I think it is called vetch? I can tell you that brown is fine. Sometimes you will have that depending on weather or especially in 1st cut. This was the 1st year we never got a 2nd cut because the weather was way too wet! Horse hay needs to be super dry, many more steps and you have to be very picky before baling! Sometimes what would appear to be a weed, may not be, you will want someone experienced to tell you. I have a friend that I will not take any hay from because they just have too many weeds in them. We have purchased what appeared to be quality hay price wise too and our horses dropped weight. I imagine a bun would do the same thing. This has been the worse year for us to harvest hay and alot of it is brown, yet my bun prefers that over the green nice sweet smelling of the store bought timothy hay. I combine them. I am pretty sure it is first cut, so its full of fiber. The hay on the right is what my friend gave me. There is to Mellow, as well…. Hey you actually took a picture! Here I thought I was the only hay-photographer! It appears that the hay on the right is less green and more stemmy like you said. Most buns go for the green rich stuff. I would use the stemmy hay in the litterbox more than, and put the green hay into the rack. The pictures are helpful but oh goodness… I think I might have been feeding Leroy the wrong hay for the past 5 or so months?!?! The hay is very messy though which I hate. Leroy likes them too. I just figured he likes it because he likes eating anything! I know alfalfa tastes better than timothy to most bunnies, but he was a voracious hay eater when I fed him the expensive store timothy hay too. Please let me know what you guys think. I can always donate it to my local shelter for their baby bunnies if it turns out to be alfalfa. I love how it looks like Leroy is peeking into the container in the three pictures above but…. Even some of the top large companies who have all the resources at their fingertips still have had more brown hay. I also think brown hay is looked at as bad, and though it does have some nutritional loss, hay strands are consumed more for trhe fiber quality and that does not diminish. My bunny Rucy also used to prefer the brown pieces. Jack definitely eats the greener pieces first and then eats the rest. Vivian just shoves it all in her mouth. Looks pretty good! Some bunnies do prefer the softer second cut though. Does your bunny have any teeth issues? Barbie — Now that hay is more brown that I am used to. I do understand though that could be just the way it is showing up in photos. I also am wondering if that is alfalfa because of how thorny you are saying it is. Alfalfa is hard to handle! Then I can compare what I have to what they feed. Uncut Alfalfa is very hard to handle in terms of fitting it into a rack, and yes, it is messy, dusty and little pieces can get stuck in your hands from it. I would buy some grass hay now and mix the alfalfa in with it to use it up. Kim, I think the plant in your picture is a clover. Clover is often mixed in with timothy as well. Clover is another member of the legume family and can be fattening for a bunny. Give in moderation. Are you sure it is vetch? Can you check? I guess, it would take a cetain amount to affect a horse, but for a rabbit i would make sure the hay is free from any forage vetch. Kim, that brown hay from the bale looks actually off to me. That dark brown color I have not seen in hay. Colors can vary but your hay really looks off. Yes, the fuzzy part on the timothy is where the seeds were. It is not just dead grass it is beyond that. It must have been stored wrong and for too long. What does it smell like? It is sad that the rabbits in the rescue where you got Julia have to eat this. Your hay looks like a grass hay, the wide blades do seem like marsh grass to me. Whatever it is, this hay must have gotten wet at some point, either harvested wet or been rained on to turn this mudbrown color. It is strange that some of the hay from your bale is green, though. You said it came in a bale? These spores could easily be on the green part too. Marsh grasses are enjoyed by marsh rabbits of course, and some regular rabbits like them too. My Lint is a big fan:. Marsh grass is stiff and has sharp edges. It has hollow stems and grows in tufts. No teeth problems, thank goodness. The store bought smells more grassy than the other. He is a really good hay eater and I want him to continue. He is 7. He just prefers the grassy smelling hay to the other. This is a great thread!! I am learning so much! What a cute bunny!!! Those pics look just like the alfalfa that I have from a local farm. The lady I got Mellow from grows it and she gave me a box of alfalfa and a box of grass hay. I am weaning Mellow from the alfalfa now. The left looks like first cut to me it actually looks very similar to the Timothy First cut mini bales we sell. The right looks more like 2nd cut or Orchard, but just more brown. However it could be another type of grass that Petzy mentioned Having that much brown does not mean it is bad though as some bales, especially this year are browner. Are the brown pieces that dark? IF it has sort of musty smell instead of a fresh hay smell then that can cue you in to what may be really going on. And look really closely at the leaves — if you even spot some dark spots sprinkled on, that is very bad. My understanding is it more about the shades of brown you need to watch out for. Dark brown not good and medium and lighter brown is okay. I collected a bunch of stuff about this about a year ago. Okay…found some of them! The above resources are not affiliated with any particular product so they should be objective. The softer hays, such as second cut timothy and second cut brome, are more inclined to display brown leaf because the plants grow short and lush, which reduces the amount of sunlight to the lower leaves, thus causing more browning. Oxbow works closely with Mother Nature to bring to you the best hay possible. There might be more brown leaf than anybody wants, but this is just what Mother Nature says we can have. While bunnies are smart and will often bypass the brown and painstakingly pick out the green strands in later-harvest hay, there is nothing wrong with the brown hay, and most bunnies will eat it if their preference is not availabl e. I personally found all of it, especially the first resource very educational the second one is similar with a slight variations. Edited to change the crazy font size I posted earlier:. This hay has been consistent over the last year. Same thing with my bunnies at home. I have seen the timothy in the bales in the past. And usually there is timothy in it-no alphalfa. I assure you what we have-even this last batch is safe, unless it gets wet. When hay gets wet it goes moldy quick, and gives off a funky smell. That is what is dangerous. For over three years now, the Michigan Farmers have been having a hard time with the crops because of the weather we have been getting. And rabbits can do pen-g injections just not any oral penicillin. It really depends on the shade of brown. Sun-bleached hay would be more straw-color, that is a light brown and would not harm a rabbit. It would just be lower in nutrients as the sun sucks those out. A hay would not turn this dark brown color from exposure to sun. I meant it may have been wet at some point, prior to baling, for long enough to turn dark brown. The rescue would not know about that. I personally would not use a hay that is mudbrown in color. I do use brown hays when I have them but never this dark of a brown. Just to put in my two cents, I buy hay from a local farmer and I find it wonderful! It smells great, looks great and the bunnies love it. It does have brown bits in it, but not too much and it is mostly green. It does have some weeds in it and some hard twig-like pieces, but I find my bunnies LIKE these twig-like pieces and fight not really for those pieces. The cutting that I found had the most weeds in it was the third cutting. The first cutting I have not gotten yet, I like my farmers second cut, it is nice, not too coarse or fine and not too many weeds. I really like getting baled hay because it is five dollars for a bale, and for the little bags of hay it is ten for a good sized bag that might last me a week or so. I find with the baled hay my bunnies eat more hay so that is always good. One time I ran out of baled hay and had to rush to the store to buy a bag to last until I could pick up a bale. The bunnies hay consumption decreased dramatically and they were not nearly as excited when I filled their hay rack this was oxbow hay I had gotten from the store. To store the hay I actually use my old commercial bunny cage. I cover the cage with a sheet and put the bale inside the cage its actually only the wire portion of the cage. I I raise the hay on two bricks so that it has air circulating it. It is stored in my basement and the sheet is there to prevent hay from going everywhere. The top I leave uncovered and it works out pretty well. I just get a garbage bag and fill it and take it upstairs when I need more hay. That was from us, but was premature as the login was not working at that time. KytKattin Participant. Monkeybun Participant. BinkyBunny Moderator. Deleted User Participant. I will post a photo for you. Kokaneeandkahlua Participant. Bren Participant. I hate to waste it, but if he rejects it…. Barbie Participant. Leory helped me take pictures! Above: close up of the hay. Thanks BB and Monkey for your input. Sarita Participant. What I mean to say is that alfalfa is not grass like hay. My Lint is a big fan: Marsh grass is stiff and has sharp edges. When in doubt just throw it out. I know that mold in hay though can be bad. Thanks for posting those links, BB. Moldy hay is not like penicillin. Moldy hay can even kill a rabbit. You must be logged in to reply to this topic. Keep me signed in. Log In. About Us. Contact Us. Wholesale Inquiry. Site Map. House Rabbit Store. Store Login. Track Your Order. Shipping Costs. Loyalty Rewards. Value Packs. Fun Stuff. Gift Ideas. Privacy Policy. 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