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Login or Sign Up. Logging in Remember me. Log in. Forgot password or user name? Sponsor Banner. Buying an almost-pro level horn, for cheap. Posts Latest Activity Photos. Page of 2. Filtered by:. Previous 1 2 template Next. Buying an almost-pro level horn, for cheap , PM. Hey there! I'm new to the forums, but that's not the important thing right now. I'm going in to my junior year of high school, and for the past six years, I've played on a Yamaha S. It's a great horn, and it's served me well, but that it's non-compensating and has the 4th vale on the top is getting in my way, and even physicaly harming my pinkie when I start going through faster passages usig the 4th valve. So, I've decided that the time has come to upgrade, and I've got my eyes on three different horns. The first horn is a used Yamaha S that I've found surfing on eBay. This horn has been taken off and put back on three times since I've been following it, and the price has stayed consistent. In poking around this forum, I've found that they're generally flimsy horns, made with cheap materials and prone to the valve casings collapsing. The appeal for me with this horn is that it's cheap, it's got a tuning slide trigger, and it has some dope engravings on the bell. Other than that, I've heard that the tone quality on these is awesome on a good day, and deplorable on bad days, as I've heard of Hirsbrunner horns. I've heard good things about it, but I've also heard of the evils of stencil horns. Otherwise, this horn has it all; tuning slide trigger, side valve, compensating system, etc. So, it comes down to this; Would springing for the TE horn be a mistake, next to a Yamaha of the same price, but with less bells and whistles? And, would the Cerveny be inany way worth it, or would it just look pretty, and maybe sound good? Tags: None. It's a well-regarded horn in almost all circles. Comment Post Cancel. Buying an almost-pro level horn, for cheap Yeah Of the two, I preffered the Besson, despite the fact that it drips like nobody's business. I guess what I'm really asking about it the reliability of the Tuba Exchange horn. I've been fiddling around on one of their St. Petersburg tubas for the past month or so, and it's nice enough, but tuba does not equal euphonium. Buying an almost-pro level horn, for cheap I can't comment on the Tuba Exchange, but I can say that I would still go with the Yamaha It feels larger physically and has a generally less brilliant tone. It is somewhat less responsive than the , In fact, I would say a Yamaha is more 'Besson-like'. Adams E3 0. Buying an almost-pro level horn, for cheap You didn't say what your plans are for the future regarding your horn. If you are going to a serious job, then the Yamaha is the best choice. But even as an amateur there are things to think about with the clones. They may be fine, but how about in 10 years, or in several decades. I have students using horns that are decades old: American-style euphoniums and Yamaha 's. They are holding up fine. And of course the old Bessons are usually pretty darned sturdy. I have played a Schiller, and whatever it is a clone of, it does not equal the original. But it costs a fraction of the price, so one has to balance that. But if you pine for a Besson, I don't know if the TE horn will do the trick. Compared to a Sovereign, especially an old Sovereign, the sound is almost certainly not going to be there for you. But I haven't tried those, so My real concern with that particular is the trigger. In a pro-quality horn, a trigger is still the most fragile part of the horn and works well only with good maintenance. Will the TE trigger be as good? Is the entire assembly including much of the horn as stable and well-finished as a pro horn? Do they offer it without the trigger? I'd be less reserved about that because you are less likely to have trouble. For intonation difficulties, I used alternate fingerings on my old Sovereign. That's not ideal, of course, but it is workable, and it beats having a trigger let you down. Having said all that, let me disclaim my opinion somewhat. This level of horn is not my specialty, and they are all too new to have a long-term track record one could use to judge them. So take my opinions with a grain of salt. Buying an almost-pro level horn, for cheap I'm looking to be either a Performance or Education Major, and I'm really looking for something to last me through college, at least. From what I've found out and about, the TE horns are solidly made, but they're still stencil horns, and don't quite match the Besson sound. I've also heard fantastic stuff about the Sterling Viruoso, and I want to look into that hor as well, but I can't find one for sale for the life of me. It is also carried by Dillon now I think You can sometimes get deals on those. Buying an almost-pro level horn, for cheap The Virtuosos seem to be great horns, but the pricing on them is more than can be accomodated right now. The Sterling Royale is cheaper, and it looks almost identical to the Virtuoso Model! The specs are exactly the same, according to Custom's site. Buying an almost-pro level horn, for cheap So, it's looking like it's coming down to the used , or a new Sterling Virtuoso, most likely a Model I. The pricing on the Yamaha is attractive, but I can cover a pricier horn. On top of that, the chart that's been floating around for pitch tendencies is beginning to sway me. However, I'm concerned about a few things with the Sterling. First, does it have a high resale value? Second, will it be worth it in years to come over the Yamaha? Third, are parts easily available for replacement? Buying an almost-pro level horn, for cheap Regarding the Sterling, I have not had a great deal of success in getting replacement parts more specifically felts and corks and valve guides from Custom Music. I bought my Virtuoso new in and took it to Lee Stofer who did to the horn what Custom Music should have done from the outset. While I enjoy playing the Sterling, I'm less than enamored of Custom Music, especially since they've come under new management. I took time out of a personal trip to the Detroit area to try and get parts and never did get a full set of valve guides - Custom Music does not, apparently, have a repair tech on site. They bring in a guy once a week on a part time basis and even when I coordinated my visit with him, I still didn't get what I needed. If I had to do it over again, I probably wouldn't. Lee Stofer provides what I need anyway, so it isn't a huge thing, but when I think of the term 'customer service' the image that comes up is not Custom Music. Since oh hell I've dated myself , I've played on a Hirsbrunner euphonium. The horn was listed somewhere and my teacher made it a point to call my parents. I've ordered replacement parts recently with absolutely NO problems. Lee Stofer is an excellent choice and his fellow Army musicians will say so. Both Stofer and Oberloh can make anything you might need. I haven't played the Sterlings , but I have played the Yamaha. Given the opportunity, I'd buy from Custom. This isn't and there's a lot of stuff out there. So I'd take a long term approach to buying a horn. I'm not really high on bad mouthing the other brands. I've heard the same stories about Hirsbrunners for years. It's an endless Coke v Pepsi, Mac v Windows, or two old women accusing each other of lip waxing during Sunday church services. Now get out there and play some more horns. My personal preferences from what I've played would be an Adams any , Yamaha no or Neo , and the Miraphone Buying an almost-pro level horn, for cheap There are a lot of things to consider before I would get a new horn besides how the horn sounds to you. First would be your budget and also that you have one more year of high school before starting college. If the is truly causing damage to your pinky then id say its time to start looking for a new horn. Still, be careful with ebay and buying something unseen and played. Depending on what college you go to, you might wait and talk to your brass teacher. My year-old served me well through both high school and college before recently going to my new horn. The other posters here are pros and wiser than me Sorry if I rained on your enthusiasm! Buying an almost-pro level horn, for cheap Some very good suggestions here. One thing that comes to mind is if you're having trouble playing the 4th valve on your with your little finger, you can try using your left index finger. You have to hold the horn differently and reach around higher -- and probably only work when you're seated -- but I've seen other players do this with success. As far as parts availability, I can only address Yamaha parts availability. I've had my Yamaha S now for 12 years and haven't had any trouble getting parts. But you do need to get parts from an authorized Yamaha dealer. I've ordered felts, springs and even a 4th valve without any problem. They even have an on-line parts catalog so you can look up part numbers. Copyright by David Werden all rights reserved. All rights reserved. Yes No. OK Cancel.
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