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Registration's totally free, of course, and makes snowHeads easier to use and to understand, gives better searching, filtering etc. When you register, you get our free weekly -ish snow report by email. It's rather good and not made up by tourist offices or people that love the tourist office and want to marry it either We don't share your email address with anyone and we never send out any of those cheesy 'message from our partners' emails either. Anyway, snowHeads really is MUCH better when you're logged in - not least because you get to post your own messages complaining about things that annoy you like perhaps this banner which, incidentally, disappears when you log in Username:- Password:. Or: Register to be a proper snow-head, all official-like! Prev topic :: Next topic. Poster: A snowHead. Hi, looking at booking first ski hol for end of March 23rd. Which one would be better suited for total beginners? We will want a good ski school and accommodation close to this. Also open to any other suggestions that fit my criteria! Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person. SunnyLiving , Only been to Saas Fee in summer so cant really comment on winter holidays, perfectly nice place though not sure it is ideal for skiing. Obergurgl would tick a number of your boxes but there is not much else to do there but ski. Late March is definitely spring so resort level snow is not going to be common. Presume you have ruled out the large French resorts popular with Brits? They are often good late season. Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? Either would be good. Saas Fee is definitely the prettier of thew two with spectacular views and a lovely and quite sizeable car-free village. It has some of the best nursery slopes in the alps, separated from all the other runs. My kids all learnt to ski there. But the progression to the main mountain is not ideal for beginners, with limited easy slopes at altitude. Obergurgl has great slopes and is high and snow-sure. Good slopes to progress to if you make it out of the nursery slopes. Really nice hotels. But it is a small place and very quiet. Most people don't really do much outside of the hotel they are staying in. I have quite a few friends whose kids learnt to ski there. And I have dropped in for a few days at a time, and enjoyed it. Hope that helps! It really depends what is more important to you. You need to Login to know who's really who. Welcome to Snowheads, SunnyLiving ,. You are going to have to make some compromises. I'd suggest that you compromise on the idea of a pretty, chocolate box Alpine village and prioritise ease of access to really good beginner slopes with the right kind of progression. You might very well be wrong about not wanting to ski all week. Presumably you will all take lessons and I believe that in Austria they are often all-day, which will be terrific for learning progression but might leave you with little energy for anything else. Many of us, when we learnt to ski, just want to do it every minute - it's quite addictive and in a good ski school group your progress each day will be encouraging. The 12 year old will probably outpace you quite fast! I don't know Saas Fee or Obergurgl. In terms of French resorts the places still snow-sure at Easter are not notably pretty! But they DO generally have lots going on. And ski school will generally be half a day neither half of the day is ideal at Easter as the mornings can be a bit hard and icy and the afternoons a bit slushy. One option would be private lessons for the three of you. French private lessons are often over lunch time during holiday periods and in some ways that's ideal. The snow is at its best then, and because lots of people will be lunching, the slopes are often a bit quieter. You know your family - if the 12 year old will not be too embarrassed to be seen with his parents, that could work well. If you have a few dry slope lessons you will either be able to be very fast learners in the beginner group or moved up a group - depends how the ski school organises things. But don't worry if that doesn't happen - learning in a group of beginners all at the same level is a lot of fun. Wherever you decide to go you must book up ski school right away - because that will make or break your holiday. You haven't said what other sports you do. Skiing uses muscles you might not know you had. If time is limited, I would prioritise some ski-specific exercises and a bit of cardio-vascular work just walking briskly uphill would be fine. If you are already fit and sporty, sorry I mentioned it Austria has a lot more hotels than France, generally speaking. You could look at the Club Med places in France - though I believe they are pretty expensive! If there are still any spaces left , that would be good. Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. Thanks for replies! Husband and son both sporty - husband enjoys mountain biking and the gym. Husband and son both very adventurous and brave and will happily throw themselves down mountain on bikes - not for me! We like to try different restaurants and get out of the hotel a little. Yes I did rule out France as have been told by friends and read online that the French ski schools can be brutal and the French are not the most welcoming. Thanks again for all replies, really appreciated. You'll need to Register first of course. SunnyLiving , welcome to sH Obertauern might be worth a look. A reasonable Apres ski vibe. Plenty of accessible mountain Hutte for refreshment and lunch stops. Some may have pools but a nice sauna post skiing and a bit Apres is hard to beat, in my book. Then you can post your own questions or snow reports Quote: Yes I did rule out France as have been told by friends and read online that the French ski schools can be brutal and the French are not the most welcoming Not really true - and French resorts welcome people who come to spend money, just like Austrian ones do! The big French resorts have excellent ski schools - some of them British-run with native speaking instructors. I don't think the Austrians allow that. I mentioned Club Med as you asked about hotels. Personally I'd not enjoy it - the whole idea of all-inclusive puts me off - and I dislike hotels generally. I would much prefer to rent a nice apartment and sample local restaurants and cook simply things at home sometimes. Most resorts have pools you can visit, if that appeals. Your concern about son and hubby leaving you behind is understandable. You wouldn't be left behind, but they might get frustrated! But do those exercises - lots of good advice on the internet. You might be better off in group lessons - boy with other teenagers. If you and OH start together, he can get moved up a group if necessary. One possible French destination is Courchevel We had great ski lessons there many years ago - people here could give you good advice on current offerings. Val Thorens is a popular high-altitude destination. Plenty going on in both. Tignes and Val d'Isere also- and again, with good ski schools available. Really the quality of your instruction is going to be one of the most important things about the holiday. If you fancy Austria, the all-day ski school might be a positive. Obertauern is purpose built, more like the French resorts, but seems to have a lot of what you need. Are you planning a package holiday or DIY? After all it is free. Can't comment on Saas Fe but have been to Obergurgl quite a few times, and like it. Maybe a bit more pushing for beginners if you don't want to speed up on the way home, but not a problem. This is only the hotels I've stayed in which are in the higher end of village. The others you would ski to the bottom and walk. The village is small so almost anywhere else would be a very short walk to slopes. It's high so should be good late season. The hotels are generally all of a good standard, as are mountain restaurants. Quite pretty, not amazing but much better than lots of resorts. Austrians are pretty good. I don't think it would be a bad choice. You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. An alternative to to the Alps if looking for a snowy resort is to consider Norway. Vestlia Resort in Geilo is fantastic for beginners and early intermediates and is very convenient for slopes, ski school, hire, etc. Ski school is 2 hours so leaves plenty of time for other winter activities such as dog sledding. Beautiful train journey to get there as well. Geilo is nice little town but is 5 mins bus journey away from the resort, buses run frequently though. Radisson Blu resort in Trysil would offer something similar. The Ski Safari website is great for info and while they are excellent overall it's easy to book it all independently. Skistar good site for Trysil and other resorts in Norway and Sweden. Geilo was our sons first ski holiday he was just turning 10 at the time and he absolutely loved it. Progression from magic carpet, to poma lift, to chairlift and then speed and slalom courses all done in the first few days, skiing all over the mountain by the end of the week. Ski the Net with snowHeads. Origen wrote: Quote: Yes I did rule out France as have been told by friends and read online that the French ski schools can be brutal and the French are not the most welcoming Not really true - and French resorts welcome people who come to spend money, just like Austrian ones do! In fact, I would go as far to say that there a probably better options for native or, as near as dammit, perfect English speakers instructing in Austria. In my experience, there are often huge numbers of non-German speaking skiers holidaying in Austria who have English as their second language. Been to both with near beginners in tow - I would choose Obergurgl especially if u commit to some pre-learning in Uk. Both are really good, Saas Fee has better views and a lovely village to explore and great toboganning, but once off the excellent nursery drags you are a bit stock… less so in Obergurgl. Have a good look at the piste maps and see where you can go only skiing blues. And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. Cacciatore , sorry, I didn't mean there weren't great Austrian instructors who speak English - the last week I spent in Austrian ski school the instructor had worked for 5 years in Loughborough! But that there weren't any British-owned schools. But maybe that's wrong. So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much. I was responding to the suggestion that French ski schools are brutal. You know it makes sense. You might also want to look at Lech. Lech has much more charm than Obergurgl, and a wider range of accommodations. And will definitely have snow in the village. Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:. SunnyLiving , Obergurgl has everything you want - apart from much to do like bowling etc. Many hotels have pools, but hotels are expensive though I see Lech mentioned in this thread which will be just as expensive Can't see why you won't spend most of your time skiing though - especially if the weather is good and if you get the bug - as beginners you may be too exhausted to do too much other than have a relaxing swim Skiing in Obergurgl is generally easy and snow conditions generally good even at Easter. You may want to bus to Hochgurgl where there's a bit more skiing, almost all blue. The run down to the TopExpress is in Obergurgl is a steepish red. There are also quick buses to Solden with more skiing, much of that reasonably easy. Solden village has zero charm, so not a place that would fit your bill. Cacciatore , Agree. Just about everyone in service industry in Austria speaks good English. Origen , running your own ski school in Austria requires more qualifications than in France, so although possible to have a British ski school, it doesn't seem to be the case so much due to the additional requirements. Anyway, back to the question in hand, I wouldn't rule out France, and would add places such as Avoriaz, Tignes and Val Thorens to the list of potential places, albeit they'll fail on the chocolate box pretty aspect. Eating out though was pricey. Also, if you do pick Saas Fee as a resort, I have the number of a very good instructor that's native English speaking if you can count Scottish that would potentially be available for lessons. Comparing prices in major ski resorts, France is often the most expensive. It is possible to find cheaper areas in France though, whereas in Switzerland the prices and quality are more uniform. But it is a misconception that a ski holiday is always more expensive in Switzerland. Parts of Austria can also very expensive. Prices in Austria even up the mountain are no more than I'd expect to pay in the UK, and probably cheaper than London. One is just outside Kitz - Pipinos. Had a very nice 3 course meal for 2 there just about on that budget; I'd be paying the same or more at the fairly ordinary Ivy chain restaurant in the UK. I guess the 'parts of Austria that can be very expensive' are towards the Arlberg end; St Anton, Lech etc. That wasn't my experience at all after spending 5 weeks in Switzerland including Saas Fee , 1 week in France and 2 weeks in Austria last season. Especially when there's a whole family to pay for. Noticeably more than what you'd be paying outside of Switzerland though. My experience of Switzerland was, if you were paying for a service, ie a restaurant or bar, it wasn't cheap, but supermarkets weren't hugely more than the UK, more like Waitrose prices. Thanks so much to everyone for your replies! We've decided to go with Obergurgl, seems to tick almost all the boxes and also short transer from Innsbruck so decided to go with that. Is it going to make that much of a difference for us if we're further away? Any thoughts? Thanks again. The Edelweiss and Gurgl is effectively the centre of the village. It has two Gondola lifts right at its back door. One takes you directly to the main nursery area. Lifts with zero queues as well as all over Obergurgl. Good choice. Trust me the money is worth the lack of hassle and convenience with kids. Other one is Hotel Alpina Deluxe. Alpina is a very nice hotel but to the top side of the resort so on the way home you need to gather a bit of speed to ski in. Even if you failed it would probably be a 50 yard push at worst along the flat, or walk. No qualms recommending the Alpina, it would rate slightly ahead of Alpenland and Austria for me, with the caveat that a fair bit would depend on what room exactly you end up in, not all are equal. This applies to any hotel. Hochfirst IS the only 5 star hotel in Obergurgl. There is a ski school right out at the back of it. Looks good. Have stayed in Gurglhof which is smart and very near 50m walk. It has pool and sauna. Where else has two gondolas 20m from the back of the hotel? Have a great holiday SunnyLiving. Write a report about how it all goes. Bizarre decision. Wind bubbles are more prone to closures than gondola's; and Obergurgl, being at the Alpine divide, is often stormy. Safety for kids. I would say the Alpina is a nicer hotel, has much more parking in it's underground car park , and slightly better food. Either way you will have a great time, the hotels are not cheap but they are cheaper than if they were located in the Arlberg! The prices are not bad considering the quality of the hotels. Safety for kids Also better in summer Noticed gondolas being used where kids are likely to be taught - there's a really short one in Soll that I can only think is because of ski schools And also gondolas are probably cheaper than high capacity chairs. We wont go down in our ski gear as I'm assuming the hotel will be really warm I've read that most of them are so will do a quick post breakfast change. Or will we need to go extra-posh and push husband to wear a polo shirt. SunnyLiving , you need to dress a bit more up than that, for breakfast and definitely for dinner. Langerzug , thanks for your reply! How much more dressed up are we talking? What would you suggest? SunnyLiving , My wife and kids always wear base layers and me joggers for breakfast at every ski hotel I've stayed in. For evening meal I've never got dressed up more than jeans and a sweater. One thing to bear in mind and double check is that usually , French ski schools start at , Austrian and Italians more like Unless you are early to bed and early to rise , that 9 am deadline will weigh you down during the week especially for beginner skiers. Allows time to get up and have a decent breakfast plus a few laps of an easy run to warm up without feeling under pressure. New Topic Post Reply. Snow Snow Snow! 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Solden village has zero charm, so not a place that would fit your bill Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Thu ; edited 1 time in total. SunnyLiving wrote:. Langerzug wrote:.