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Planning our 8th trip to Japan, and, as always, going somewhere new. We have 4 nights in Zao and 4 nights in Appi. We always hire our ski gear once we arrive, and usually plan our accom to fit in with the ease of picking up from the most recommended ski hire place. This time I have found it difficult to figure out which hire place in Zao will be best. I understand there is a ski hire place at the Base Centre. Has anyone tried it, or at lat least had a look in there? Any feedback and advice would be much appreciated. Heinz Travelling again Ski Pass. Oct 14, 31, 23, 1, Adelaide. Been to those places but can't help on ski hire. I always travel with my own skis. Zao is actually a collection of ski areas each with their own set of shops, ski schools, hire etc. There were certainly a collection of shops in the Uwanodai area, probably a couple of ski hire places but know nothing about them. Nice village to walk through. Recommend visiting the wood carving shop with the Kokeshi dolls just down the road from where you will be staying. Appi is completely different - one big base centre with just about everything in the one building. Reactions: Vermillion. Thanks Heinz. Appi Grand has a Salomon and Atomic deal at their ski rental place - hopefully they get new gear each season - looks OK on their website. Zao Onsen is more of a mystery. I guess we will just cross our fingers and hope the rental place at Uwanodai is OK. I am old enough to remember skiing on 'fence palings'. I'm sure I'll manage. We live in Singapore where ski gear literally falls apart in the humidity the list of items that we've thrown out due to disintegration is long and sad There is nowhere to buy gear here, and we have always been pretty happy with what we've hired in Japan. Having said that I always research first and try to know exactly which shop I am going to before I get to the resort! Jan 1, 78, 50, 1, Melbourne Australia, often in Austin Texas. Click to expand Then we have to bring them home with us and find somewhere to put them You are right though - it does get expensive. Hubby still insists on owning ski boots, but mine disintegrated ages ago. I have had some really nice rental boots in recent years. Last year at Myoko Snowsports we got great gear! Nozawaman A Local. Go to Appi first , hire your gear , take it to Zao , then Black Cat it back. Reactions: dr80 , JoeKing and Zimboo. Nozawaman, that is a good idea, except we are going to Zao first! I have often wondered if there is a good ski hire place in Tokyo itself? Ski Hard Yards Ski Pass. Oct 21, 67 83 Melbourne. Hi there. There is a place called Best Rental in your area and it has some good gear. Their boot range was new and varied and they had a range of powder skis. I asked to go behind the counter as it's hard to see what they have and that wasn't a problem. It's good to have an idea of what you are after. The base area at Appi has a great variety of ski styles by Salomon and Atomic as you have seen. They are happy for you to swap skis whenever you like so you can gear up for the conditions. JoeKing Old n' Thrusty. Jul 24, 24, 11, 1, a galaxy far, far away. Reactions: Friedrais. Reactions: Kimski and Vermillion. I don't think I would bother with Takkyubinning rental skis from one resort to the other. You would need to allow a couple of days for it and I just don't think it would be worth it. I'm sure you will find some reasonable rental skis in Zao. Even if not directly where you are staying somewhere else in the village. Also I think your plan of Zao then Appi would be fine. They are completely different terrain wise. Zao has lots of shortish fall line runs over a fairly wide area. You can stay on one side and do short laps for a while, so you get more regular breaks. If it is fine definitely head up to the top for the Juyho. Appi though is generally very long fall line runs if you ride the gondolas. Thanks for all the great feedback guys. I had seen the 'Best Rental' website and had planned to check them out - thanks for the heads up Dave. JoeKing - don't tempt me to buy new boots! My last pair turned to mush in the humidity here - it was heartbreaking! Heinz - hubby is very particular about his boots for the reasons you give. I actually own a pair of personalised boot liners which I take with me, and use the rental shell, although the last couple of trips I got brand new hire boots which were so comfy that I didn't bother swapping the liners over. Plus we have friends joining us who have never been to a 'bubble era' style resort or a true onsen town. Hubby is a keen photographer so the Juyho are another attraction. Although we got lucky years ago at Shiga and saw the ones at the top on a beautiful bluebird day! I guess you are staying at the Grand hotel in Appi? Convenient but a bit expensive for a single. First time I stayed at the Pension village down the road and this year I just did a day trip from Morioka. Actually found a few smaller ski areas more to my liking. Yes Heinz, we are at the Appi Grand Tower - bit of a splurge we are celebrating 25 years of skiing together. Can't carry my skis very far - in fact hubby or son carry my skis and I carry their poles these days. Would be interested in doing one day at one of the smaller resorts if transport can be arranged. Hubby likes the chance to get off piste I do too if there are no trees! Hubby ex ski patroller - still a strong skier. I am a very experienced skier - probably call myself advanced rather than expert though. Is there a particular resort near Appi you would recommend? Thanks Heinz - very helpful! Currently packing for NZ. We have one day, where, if we are lucky, we will 'Ski the Tasman'. Very excited. Fingers crossed the weather will be on our side - otherwise bushwalking it is. I will post some photos and a review if we get to do it. Having said that I think 4 days at Zao and 4 at Appi is a good balance. Enough to keep you interested at both so you are probably not likely to want to head off elsewhere. And without a car it would be difficult to day trip from Appi to another resort, except maybe Shimokura. I did my day trips by bus from Morioka. But just something to keep in mind. Enjoy the Tasman. It is an easy ski, more sight skiing especially the bottom 2 thrirds, but spectacular and certainly worthwhile. They only fly up if it is fine and the landing on the Saddle is clear. Vermillion Pool Room. Heinz you're all over this one. It can get really average up the top, but then you can get spectacular days like I did this year see trip report. IMO there isnt that much interesting terrain there, and if I was just skiing I would get bored after a couple of days max. But there's a bit to do in town, and there are obviously heaps of onsen and as Heinz said above the wood carving dolls, plus if you are driving Yamagata is about 30mins down the road on a good day. In the times i've been to Zao it's been a really relaxed couple of days skiing, either up early and hitting the snow until about lunchtime, or ease into it and ski through the middle of the day. It's certainly not like a Hakuba or Niseko where it's go go go from first lifts type of ski area. I dont know if you have accom sorted but i've stayed at 2 lodges there, the last being Scole, which was OK but was very stuck in the 80s, like most of Japan. I cant comment on Appi as I havent been there, but Heinz has covered it pretty well. It's on my list. Good luck and enjoy! Thanks for the feedback Vermillion. Yeah, we figured 3 days of skiing at Zao would be enough. I tend to ski to about 2 pm and then call it quits - relaxed is my style. Time for a nanna nap and then an onsen! No more 'go go go' for me! We always think of these trips as being about exploring Japan as well as skiing, and chose Zao because we hadn't been there before, and liked the idea of the village. We are staying at Takamiya Hotel Jurin - ski in, ski out. I am guessing the top at Zao will be like the top at Shiga Kogen, which can be super feral but fun to visit for the bakery! Appi seemed like a good contrast to Zao. I might do a trip report from the perspective of someone who is not a true powderhound I like to play in the freshies in between coffee breaks and relaxing on the groomers whilst enjoying the view. God I sound old! I hope you get a day like this:. Reactions: Chondro , Froff Life , Joliver and 3 others. Friedrais Hard Yards. Jun 21, 7 0 JoeKing said:. Consider swapping. Don't do that. Just buy at Tokyo and you won't need to worry about returning them. Friedrais said:. Any advice between buying in Tokyo where you can't try the skis on, vs. Raging newbie, so sorry if it's a dumb Q, cheers. Jun 2, 7, 4, myokoskiresort. Reactions: JoeKing. Apr 2, 10, 8, Melbourne. When are you heading to Zao arthritiski? We have 4 of us that need to hire skis from Jan If you get there before us please let me know what the hire quality was like and where you chose to rent from. Froff Life said:. Reactions: Froff Life. You will be there a few days before us. However, I plan to ring the hire shop in December, once the season starts, and find out what the go is. If needs be, I will get our travel agent to email or ring them, if English is an issue. I will try to remember to post here. Currently sitting by pool in Siem Reap, and skiing not on my mind! Vermillion said:. Not the Shinta Mani is it? Man, there are some people going to Zao this coming season. I hope they know what they're in for. Verm hasn't had a great deal of joy with the weather there. Isn't that what causes the snow monster to form? We have a full week so fingers crossed we get a good mix of snow storms for the Monsters and fine weather for some photos. It does seem like Zao is popping up a bit more on the gaijin radar. Last edited: Nov 18, Buller and Zao have a lot in common. Both isolated peaks, both with shoddy weather. You cant really say i've had a bad shot with the weather there, as this year I had one of the most perfect days you'll ever see up there. It was that good there were 3 separate helicopters flying around most of the day taking promo shots. But that was 1 day. The next day it was 12C and pouring rain. Being an isolated peak that cops all kinds of weather you're going to have to cop that on the chin. If it was me, i'd only head to Zao for a day trip if I knew it was going to be good weather, otherwise i'd just ski like Inawashiro or something. The flat sections suck. They suck even more on really slow and heavy rain-affected snow. There are some good areas to ski, but there's a lot of straight-lining to get to them. In the past few years a lot of the good areas have had solid glide cracks somewhere on the slope too, closing them off. I havent seen anything to suggest this is an isolated incident either, seems kinda common up there. With that said, I absolutely recommend you go to Zao for the views on a clear day. Just dont expect that to happen the majority of the time you are there. Nov 3, 3, 2, Perth. I'm really just going there for a bit of a warm up for a couple of days, decent weather and snow will be a bonus. Our 3rd day is the public holiday anyway so we may not even ride. The Ryokan looks pretty swish, looking forward to it. Did you get out wide left of the top lift Vermillion? What time of the season was that? We are at the start of Feb so hopefully the snow quality will still be decent. The flat spots aren't too much of a concern for us, we are all skiers and could use the extra exercise to work off the excess chu-hai. Heinz said:. Partially my fault, sorry. With a full week you should hopefully get a couple of fine days - head up top then. Reactions: blowfin. Did you end up calling the rental shop mate? How did you go? Hi Froff, Just got back from some unexpected travel and realised I had not done this yet! I have just rung them and spoke to a fellow who spoke a little English. He has asked me to send a Facebook message with our requirements. Cannot find the Facebook page and am waiting for an email back from the tourism association. Will post again if I get anywhere! My friend has big feet size Hyst Untenshu - kangoshi Ski Pass. Nov 23, 5, 5, Copenhagen. Froff Life arthritiski Can you take the smell in the onsen? I think that one is life-shortning. Coutta Hard Yards. Jul 24, 52 98 Sydney. It's pretty hard to get an accurate picture? Are the snow monsters formed and worth seeing? We arrive on Sunday for a week and hope to get reasonable conditions. Coutta said:. Ps there are some amazing Onsens! The public free ones are good, and there's multiple private ones you can reserve which are magical! Hyst said:. Reactions: Froff Life and Hyst. Sometimes I wonder. You must log in or register to reply here. Similar threads. Zao Onsen. Where to stay? Replies 17 Views 2, Apr 5, stumpy Zao Onsen Replies 53 Views 9, Mar 20, Ramenman. Zao Onsen information. Youfah Mizzum May 23, Japan. Replies 37 Views 3, Mar 12, tjroaming. Share: Share Link. Log in Your name or email address. Password Forgot your password? Stay logged in. Top Bottom Back.

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Jul Zao Onsen is one of those places that transports you not only in time but also in spirit. Being one of the most traditional resorts in Japan, you will be hard pressed to find the hordes of international travellers and the commodities that usually follow them. Zao is both the name of the mountain and the town, rich in natural warm water sulphur onsens — a feature the Tohoku region is famous for. Nestled into the most eastern edge of Yamagata prefecture, Zao Onsen gets hit by icy easterly sea storms which create one of its claims to fame: the Juhyo snow ghost or snow monster trees. Zao Onsen is also the training site of Yamagata University ski club and hosts FIS certified races managed by the ski association of Yamagata. If you are staying in Yamagata City 16 km down the windy mountain road, there are regular minute ski buses up to Zao Onsen. During the week they run less often than on weekends. The lifts are operated by different companies, but each ticketing stall offers all varieties of possible options. If you are a beginner you are well served around the bottom area, a short walk from the ropeway bottom station with beginner magic carpets, Poma lifts and a couple of cozy mountain self-serve huts. You can also take Sky or Chuo ropeway up and lap around the top plateau, then download via the gondola. Beware that if the winds are very strong they might stop the gondola and you will have to face your first red run down. If you are intermediate or advanced and can handle some off-piste skiing, anytime during the week you are likely to find fresh tree lines, as the locals tend to stay on the runs. There is no patrolled freeride gate access like in the Nagano or Hokkaido mountains, so be advised that you are responsible for your own safety and navigation. There are some open gullies off of Mt. Jizo top station which may look tempting but you must really know your way around snow safety and open terrain skiing if you want to tackle those, due to the unstable wind-blown layers of the snow. The Yokokura, Kurohime and Hahnenkamm runs are the sites of the FIS point races and the training site for the ski clubs. They are not very long, but reasonably steep at an average of 30 degrees. If you ask nicely, you might even be able to do a few gates with the ski club. Zao Ropeway operates into the evenings for walking visitors to enjoy the spectacle of the lit up Juhyo. A very healthy 16 metres of snow falls each winter, creating a reliable average cm snow base measured since The abundance of snow and trademark Tohoku snow storms are a major plus for powder seekers; however, if you enjoy a sunny day during your ski trip, you are more likely to get one in the later part of the season March onwards. If you can, show up the evening before your first day on the slopes as it tends to get extremely busy in the mornings especially on weekends. Having the birthplace of Japanese skiing close by Niigata , the Austrian ski tradition has carried over and most ski schools still proudly hold Austrian names. Ski schools do offer lessons in English, but only at the private premium rate, since the ubiquitously available Aussie or Kiwi instructors of Hokkaido and Nagano are considered unicorns here. Even though you can book online , it is best to simply walk in when you first arrive to book the lessons for the week, as prices stay the same and chances for error and miscommunication are minimised. Both ski schools are located at the valley station of Zao Ropeway. There are a few self-service places at the bottom and the top of Zao ropeway, as well as warm vending machines at the top of Chuo ropeway and a few by the chairlift stations, but there is no full-service mountain hut on the mountain. The bottom station restaurants are perfectly comfortable and tasty. It is also at the highest altitude in the resort and one of the fewer in Japan that allow mixed gender bathing. A list of public access onsens is available here. If you happen to stay in a ryokan, they most likely have a small in-facility onsen. Also, if you managed to make friends with some of the local race crews coming up from Yamagata, they will usually take you to come hang out with their service guys from the rental shops, and no ski rental shop has ever run without a good amount of greasing sake. If you love grilled meat, barbecued communally around a little table grill in the shape of a hat, accommodating the delicious fat from the meat to flow into and flavour the vegetables lined around the brim of the little meat hat … you have come to the right place. Most restaurants in town offer it, and some Ikazayas are built around a stone fire pit at the centre, so you will walk into a steaming, meaty, beer-fuelled evening. Zao Onsen was not built for tourism but is a well lived-in working town, built around the abundance of hot springs and the spiritual pull of Zao mountain. If you want more than a Japanese deep powder experience, this is the place to come. Hop on a bus to take you to breathtaking historical town Ginzan Onsen. Today, only the main street remains fully originally intact, but it is lined with traditional ryokans and stores. Bus schedules are readily available at the hotels and at the tourism info. If you are feeling spiritual take a trip to Risshaku-ji, more commonly known as Yamadera temple, that perches quietly atop a peak overlooking the Yamagata valley. After hiking the worn down stone steps, you might feel a few inches closer to enlightenment. The Shinkansen from Tokyo takes 2hrs 30min and from Sendai 1hr 15min. From the main station, you can arrange with your hotel to pick you up with your gear or take a cab to the hotel. This is only marginally cheaper than Niseko, but considering the relatively large resort it is fairly priced. Due to the lack of large-scale hotel chains, accommodation options are much cheaper and you can find a beautiful family-run ryokan with gorgeous food and a cosy onsen for a very reasonable price. Just make sure to catch the last bus back or make some really good new friends. If you book early enough and avoid the Chinese new year and Japanese Christmas and New Year seasons, you will be able to find a lovely pension in town at a reasonable price. The Author. Sign me up for the newsletter! Unsubscribe any time. The Latest. Japanese ski resort offers free lift passes to Flexibility with a side of luxury: is this the Exclusive: the ambitious plan to develop a ski Japan Ski Resorts. Share Zao Onsen. 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