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All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Login with Facebook. By logging into your account, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy , and to the use of cookies as described therein. Social Groups. Mark Forums Read. Thread Tools. Dec 27, am. There are a million situational factors that play into this and it's impossible to go over all of them and how they might impact things operationally from property to property, week to week, day to day, check in to check in but know that it very much is not black and white. Also, desk agents are regularly thrown to the wolves by management and told to follow an LSOP that runs counter to the Hilton SOP which then of course sets them up to fail with the travelling public. It's not that they're lying or incompetent, if they don't follow the LSOP, they don't have a job. Ultimately, the entire upgrade thing comes down to this: All upgrades are granted at the discretion of the hotel at the time of arrival on a space-available basis for the entire stay. It's like a casino, in the end their interpretation of the rules or what transpired is what's going to carry the day at that moment. You can call the Diamond Desk about this and that alert will be routed back to the property to the same GM who told you no in the first place, he'll ignore it or respond with a one sentence answer and in the end nothing happens and everyone moves on. View Public Profile. Find More Posts by cbn Post Options. Originally Posted by cbn While I understand that 'availability' may be subjective to some extent, I can't agree with it being at the discretion of the hotel. Unless the guest is a regular at that particular property, why would any hotel want to provide someone with an upgrade if they don't have to? Even if it's midnight and there is zero chance of anyone buying the upgraded room, there is still a logistical cost involved. An upgrade benefit that is at the discretion of the hotel is basically useless. Availability may be measured in different ways, but to me it's absurd to say a room isn't available because it's being set aside in case someone pays for it. SPN Lifer likes this. Find More Posts by storewanderer. Dec 27, pm. Originally Posted by defrosted. Diamonds get upgrades? Lol, been a diamond for years, can't say it ever happened to me. Find More Posts by mreynolds Originally Posted by Ghoulish. Breakfast, fifth night, available with Gold. Biz travelers not caring about upgrades is a blessing and a curse. Not insisting on them leaves more open for those who care, but it normalizes the failure to upgrade so many properties behave as though they're optional because the right is rarely insisted on. Last edited by fwfdan; Dec 27, at pm. Find More Posts by fwfdan. Originally Posted by gudugan. Can you name some specific Hiltons so I can go try? Taipei I already mentioned above. I was looking for an upcoming trip to Niseko and Sapporo. I don't think I would ever get Hilton lifetime, but Hyatt lifetime is a possibility and is much better than Hilton lifetime. So after Marriott lifetime finishes all things equal I'd book Hyatt. However, I will continue to cross shop and getting Diamond is as easy as calling Amex and saying I want to product change Dec 28, am. Find More Posts by s0ssos. Feb 17, pm. Originally Posted by s0ssos. The problem I have with those who say the guest can never know availability is that effectively they are saying 'trust me, I am honest. And without oversight to keep the honest honest? BigFishDave and gudugan like this. Last edited by zombietooth; Feb 17, at pm. Find More Posts by zombietooth. Originally Posted by zombietooth. I've done 45 nights at international Hiltons since December and haven't gotten one UG, not a higher floor, no suites, nothing. I've asked and been offered cash UGs, but haven't gotten anything without paying. It stands to reason that, if they can offer me cash UGs, then UG rooms must be available for the entire length of my stay. Find More Posts by sapguy. Originally Posted by sapguy. Agree with you that Diamond with Hilton is somewhat worthless these days. But top elite status at other chains, e. Globalist at Hyatt and Titanium at Marriott, is still worth something, certainly more than Diamond at Hilton. I didn't mean to imply that Hyatt Glob benefits aren't good, it's just that my business is in Shinjuku and the HRT is dated, with old style rooms and a ho-hum club, while the PHT is outrageously high-priced right now. Feb 18, pm. Find More Posts by rtool. Feb 19, am. Diamond benefits? I need to be since it is the only game in town. Find More Posts by mfirst. 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