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A five-year-old British girl has reportedly been killed after being struck by a skier in the French Alps. The prosecutor for Bonneville, in the Alps, said she was taking part in a lesson with four other children in Haute Savoie. They said she was 'violently' hit by a skier going at 'high speed who tried in vain to avoid her'. It is believed efforts were made to revive the girl at the scene, but these were unsuccessful. French media reports she never regained consciousness, and died on the way to hospital. A year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter, and is said to be in shock. The prosecutor said the man was 'completely unknown' to police before the incident. The fatal incident happened near Flaine, a popular ski resort in the Alps. A judicial enquiry into the death of the five-year-old is expected to be opened tomorrow. He added they are urgently seeking psychological support for the family, who has returned to Switzerland. See more More Latest News. See more Latest News. See more The News Explained. See more Royals. See more More Topics. Picture: Alamy. By Elizabeth Haigh elizabethhaighx. Latest News See more Latest News. Royals See more Royals. More Topics See more More Topics.

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Registration's totally free, of course, and makes snowHeads easier to use and to understand, gives better searching, filtering etc. When you register, you get our free weekly -ish snow report by email. It's rather good and not made up by tourist offices or people that love the tourist office and want to marry it either We don't share your email address with anyone and we never send out any of those cheesy 'message from our partners' emails either. Anyway, snowHeads really is MUCH better when you're logged in - not least because you get to post your own messages complaining about things that annoy you like perhaps this banner which, incidentally, disappears when you log in Username:- Password:. Or: Register to be a proper snow-head, all official-like! Prev topic :: Next topic. Poster: A snowHead. Or exonerate him for being in a genuine accident- I'd much prefer that, if it were proven to be the case. I'd still be happy for your second point. Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person. But I can't comprehend how or why someone could possibly ski so fast so close to snake of 5 children other than absolute recklessness. Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? You need to Login to know who's really who. What an appalling tragedy. My heart aches for the little girl and her family. I will definitely reminding my son in particular the rules and expectations of the slopes this season. The last time he skied he was 11 and still a child. Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. Quote: but I don't know facts of situation and shouldn't be jumping to conclusions Indeed and wasn't there a suggestion that the skier stopped to assist with first aid? You'll need to Register first of course. Quote: I don't know facts of situation and shouldn't be jumping to conclusions. There will no doubt be a very full enquiry. Then you can post your own questions or snow reports I was hit from behind by a straight line skier in whilst skiing a blue run Sairon in Grand Massif down to Morillon. I was thrown forward onto my head and left shoulder which left me concussed, with a clean snap of my left humerus, torn bicep and a shattered five significant fractures humerus at the shoulder ball joint. At the time I was 45years old, around 16stone and solid regularly lifting weights and former rugby player, fairly typically strong as an ox. The person who hit me was a French woman in her mid twenties who weighed only 9 stones. She was uninjured as she struck me square between the shoulder blades with her right shoulder and braced impact. I actually think I got off lightly in the end. The damaged she caused was immense really and estimates were she was travelling around 25 to 30 mph. This story is utterly heart breaking. After all it is free. I would imagine not limited to just kids, but foolish people of all ages. We are probably years away from random drug alcohol tests on pistes , but i would be happier , if there were. Bear in mind the average blue piste skier can achieve 35 kmh, for short bursts. You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. Are you fully recovered? I hope so. Ski the Net with snowHeads. I hate anyone skiing up fast behind or close to me. And I get very defensive of my loved ones when anyone skis like a tool near them. They knew better than to argue with me over it. Another day the boy would miss my daughter, another day he may hit a five year old and kill them. Not enough proper risk assessment is made by many skiers, too many reckless fools out there. And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. And totally agreed re the idiots out there. So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much. My husband's neck fracture shot my own confidence to bits and it took some time for us to feel safe again. A child would probably have been killed outright, and as there was a ski school snake in the vicinity, I shudder to think what might have happened. He skied again right at the end of the season although very cautiously. Fortunately there was no major lasting damage, but he had 5 hours in surgery, and has an artificial disc between C5 and C6 and a collection of screws to be proud of. It could have been so different though. He was also hit from behind, and doesn't really know to this day what happened or who hit him. All he remembers an impact from behind and regaining conciousness some distance from where he was hit with our younger son collecting his strewn belongings, skis, etc etc. Idiot then picked himself up and skied to the bottom of the slopes not far before deciding he really needed medical attention. We will skip a day's skiing and do something else on a Sunday if we see huge queues arriving in coaches for the day. We can see the coach park from our apartment and indeed the place he was injured. You know it makes sense. Used to wonder how things like this could happen. But then I went on a lads ski trip to Tignes. As we entered the baby slope area, everyone slowed down apart from the one lad who was hurtling down a very busy slope, full of nervous beginners. Luckily no one was hurt but ski patrol saw what happened and took his pass away, thankfully. Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:. Hells Bells , it surely does shake you up when there is an injury incident. The number of near misses must be enormous though. One can only imagine the number of what if questions and if only thoughts being asked by all parties in this case today at Flaine. A happy holiday should never end up with your entire world collapsing. So tragic I feel a bit sick at the thought of it. In Puy St Vincent about 6 years ago, skiing on my own one morning mid mountain, I watched a snake of say 6 year olds skiing down a green run with an instructor. I witnessed what happened next. Two, circa 19 year olds, came like a bat out of hell from off piste joining the piste, straight-descending the mountain, over a dreaded blind hump and took out the 6 year olds at high speed. Sickening to watch, nothing I could do from 75 metres away. Immediately the sound of screams and crying, skis everywhere, some smashed beyond repair. I went over to help, in shock, letting the uninjured 19 year olds know what I thought of their skiing. I helped the instructor and kids, other adults came to help too. Because all the kids eventually got up amazing rubbery bones and bodies , the attitude from the instructors was no long-term harm done, so the 19 year olds were allowed to ski away with no details exchanged. Talk about laissez faire! Seriously, the only bollocking they got was from me. Perhaps French Alpine experts here could give their insight. Likewise I find it incomprehensible. I hope that we'll all keep sad events like this in mind when we get back to the slopes. Given that I was already not of the slimmest of builds, and that two years of lockdowns etc have not been especially favourable to the waistline, I will be particularly mindful of my responsibilities when, hopefully before too long, I can return to the mountains. This person might be a highly competent skier but can't look everywhere at once. Could it be there should be TWO instructors for children's lessons with one at the back as a 'lookout' or look up? It would cost more but perhaps this is the safer way forwards, given that slopes are especially busy in school holiday weeks when children are on the slopes. As an aside, a primary school would never lead children along a footpath with a single adult so it does seem extraordinary that a group of young children can be left in the care of a single adult possibly young and inexperienced in a potentially lethal environment. Back protectors do work. This Christmas I was skiing very conservatively into a wide open junction and there were only two other skiers, one to my left and skiing out of the junction, and one way to my right, coming into the junction but timed to join the junction a few seconds after I would leave it. That was it. No-one else anywhere at all. All clear. Imagine my surprise at the exit of the junction when I heard and felt 'click click' of both bindings, and then found myself rolling, fortunately so relaxed I got up without even realising I had tumbled some distance. I changed my mind about where I was going at the last minute But yet again. Caught from behind and compromised by someone else's incompetence. The chances may seem vanishingly small, but I have been taken out from behind three times in a decade, and my son once in that same time. Not so small perhaps. The unnecessary death of that small girl is simple horrible. How tragic. We should remember that skiing is still an adventure activity no matter how well it is managed. There are many more people on the slopes now who have never taken, even a single, professional lesson. Self taught, or taught by mates. Most of them will never have even heard of the code. It might just help prevent such heartbreaking incidents like this from happening. That is quite a wide piste and not as busy as Tourmaline. Those of us that ski off piste will know the old mantra when skiing in trees, don't look at the trees, look at the gaps. I am not sure how to explain it but if you look at the obstacle then you are more likely to hit it. I have seen a collision like that happen on a wide deserted piste when I was leading a group myself. The friend who was struck ended up with cracked ribs although it could have been worse. I suspect that might have happened here. Yes - on the main slopes they are normally led by one instructor. But there are dozens of other instructors from the same ski school on the slopes at the same time. If there's a problem - they have help almost instantly. I've skied Serpentine in Flaine many many times. It's wide, open, with excellent visibility. You'd be able to see a ski lesson of kids snaking from side-to-side from a long way off - and should be able to give them a wide berth. It's about as benign as ski slopes get in terms of objective dangers - no trees, few rocks aside from getting lost if it's misty - there are few landscape features. The biggest risk would seem to people skiers going too fast - perhaps because it's so benign. Been the fate of many motorcyclists. One French article I've seen suggests this happened in the area in front of the Blanchot restaurant. This is pretty much the widest, most open area on the entire Serpentine piste. The resort manager replied quite quickly, and was very reassuring that they were doing a lot to improve things. I will do a quick check on my next visit to see if this has been kept up, but included were more signage and barriers at busy corners this has definitely happened , large notices on pylons reminding people to give way to the downhill skier and to control speed also happened and reinforcing safety teaching in ski lesssons. There were also extra pisteurs on duty at busy times. I don't have a piste map to hand to check if it is on there, but how many of you look at anything other than the map? I've not split anything. I was clearly and obviously asking for another opinion regarding finer points. I've cut you some slack as I've assumed that English isn't your first language due to your clumsy use of it. Let's wind our necks in and rather than sling mud, respect the spirit in which the OP opened this post. This is a terrible thing to happen, and I feel so sorry for the parents. They will never get over it. We all must do our utmost to try to stay safe and make sure we are not the cause of one of these incidents. I've got to put my hands up and admit I've been involved in a few incidence myself and I'm very sorry. I've crashed into a guy at speed and cracked his ribs. I'm not proud of it, I've got to learn from this. I worry for my Granddaughter. Hells Bells , frejul , thanks. Also, if it happened near the Blanchot, that's just below the end of the Cristal piste natural half pipe I think. People tend to bomb it a bit through that - but that's speculation only. Need more information. Quote: two years of lockdowns etc have not been especially favourable to the waistline Quote: Back protectors do work I am hoping to ski before the end of the season. At the moment, I don't think my back protector will fit under my jacket and I need to take some action to make sure it does again. Back protectors are a very good idea. MorningGory wrote: richjp , It's called target fixation. We skied in 3V in mid december. They all had something in common though. They were all teletubbies. We represented some potential dare to otherwise uneventful piste runs for Candide wannabees without the balls to go off piste. Hopefully not a factor in these collisions, but my OH said at the time maybe prophetically 'they need to sort that out, or someone will die when it's busy'. Condolences to all involved. I think sometimes the widest areas can be the most dangerous as they encourage the largest speed differences between the fast carvers and beginners- just a catched edge or misjudgement could lead to serious injury. Whereas nobody is going to be going to quickly down a crowded narrow icy path. Whizzing past very nervous skiers, who do not take a predictable path. Quite a few of these patrol guys are proper a-holes, but I wonder if we need them in europe now. I don't want them, but possibly necessary. That are teletubbies and Candide wannabees in this context? Very visible and with real powers. New Topic Post Reply. Snow Snow Snow! Solo Skiers v Groups - Orga Archives Lost and Found Ski Club of Great Britain To one side secret Mountain Hideout snowShops You cannot post to forums until you login You cannot read some forums until you login Read about snow conditions : snow conditions And leave your own snow report : snow report Find advice to help plan your ski holidays : ski holidays The snowHeads Ski Club : Ski Club 2. Terms and conditions Privacy Policy. Snow Reports. I don't know facts of situation and shouldn't be jumping to conclusions. Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports After all it is free After all it is free. 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