Betinasia, Karl!
Karl Ahlberg is hiding behind the facade "Betinasia".
Karl is an agent of mollybet.com, which is software that is in fact providing you access to bookies: sbo,pin,isn,ibc/maxbet, exchanges: bf,mbook,bdaq, and some others.
Karl solves independently do or not to do payments to you back. I have no doubt that he always wants to take money from you.
I have conducted an investigation about who is hiding behind the curtain when I was thoughtfully deciding whether or not deposit money to that individual Karl.
My post in BettingAdvise forum (http://forum.bettingadvice.com/showthread.php?t=104087) was modified, another post was deleted by a moderator, most important information about so called Betinasia is present in this post.
Betinasia support offered me to deposit to that swedish individual to Maltese bank with warning "Don't write anything related to betting or BetInAsia":
[QUOTE]Our Bank details:
Account holder: Karl Ahlberg
EUR IBAN: MT77SBMT55505000011000022936001
Beneficiary Bank: Sparkasse Bank Malta Plc.
SWIFT: SBMTMTM1
Beneficiary Bank Address: Sparkasse Bank Malta plc, 101 Town Square,
Ix-Xatt ta 'Qui-si-Sana, Sliema SLM3112, MALTA
Note: Please only type "Transfer" for statement. [B]Don't write anything
related to betting or BetInAsia[/B].[/QUOTE]
This scheme (sending money to personal accounts) that vodds widely used with skrill deposits hiding from high comissions for merchants. And vodds' personal accounts were stopped by Skrill.
[URL="http://betinasia.com/t_a_c/"]On website BetInAsia stated[/URL] that
[QUOTE]BetinAsia is owned and operated by Isoall Ltd. It is a company registered in Malta, MT22769817, with its registered office at Ivy Manions C, Triq Il-Qasam, Swieqi, Malta.[/QUOTE]
But so called "betinasia support" offered to fulfill account of individual named Karl not their company in Malta.
Karl meanwhile answered from his gmail account (Karl Ahlberg <karlahlberg@gmail.com>) to one of my emails sent to betinasia support email (support@betinasia.com). Rookie mistake.
Last statement from betinasia was so:
[QUOTE]You can always decide not to deposit and use other services
If you feel uncomfortable using Bank Wire, you can always use Skrill, Neteller, Ecopayz or Bitcoins. But beware [B]those accounts will be personal too[/B].[/QUOTE]
Using bitcoins at the same time with a real money is suspicious by itself.
Conditions of betinasia are too nice to be true. No commissions for bank wire, they will pay their bank commission for withdrawal, too low minimum bet - 10EUR, too low minimum deposit - only 500EUR. Such an ideal trap.
I imagined myself in position of startuper Karl who receives money that formally is a gift to him without any obligations.
I made decision [B]not to deposit to betinasia[/B] and [U]warn you not to use betinasia.com[/U] as it must be 1 or 2 guys (agent Karl, affiliate of mollybet, and one support worker which is using different names) not a company.
It's better take some time to find more trustful affiliates of mollybet.com software.
Even more unexpected news I found later about betinasia broker. It turned out that domain betinasia.com is registered not for a company but for an individual(!). Whose name is not Karl Ahlberg but Johan Karlberg:
Registrant Name: JOHAN KARLBERG
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: OXELVAGEN 28
Registrant City: VIKEN
Registrant State/Province: VIKEN
Registrant Postal Code: 26362
Registrant Country: SE
Registrant Phone: +46.739431716
Registrant Email: [email]KARLBERG@GMAIL.COM[/email]
[URL="http://betangel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=109969#p109969"]Bettors are saying[/URL] that in some cases swedish duet asked for 10000EUR initial deposit, another time 5000EUR. Now they ask only 500EUR
Quote: I was contact betinasia
i ask me for first deposit 10000€
different application 5000€ End quote.
Very, very suspicious agent of mollybet.
I warn you so that you understand the risks of dealing with individual person Karl impersonating himself as "Betinasia broker" and sending him money as "gifts".