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The video, called "Initiation," was apparently filmed "very quickly and discreetly" one November Saturday at Columbia's Butler Library. According to creators Coco Young (artist, model) and Karley Sciortino (founder, Slutever . Past work: Blow job instruction video !) the film "explores the rituals of American Ivy League secret societies, to the point of hysteria, highlighting our culture's perception of female desire." Confirmed: This is what women do at sleepovers in art school. Happy now?
But...why? Young explains to the Ivy Gate Blog : "Butler Library is particularly emblematic of the male-centricity at Columbia; there are, for example, only male authors’ names on the facade of the building, a historic point of protest."
That might have been the inspiration, but was it perceived as intended by the unwashed masses? As one commenter wrote on Columbia newsite Bwog : "It was hard to masturbate to this."
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KIDS IN THE LOCKER ROOM DISCOMFORT OVER MIXED NUDITY AT THE Y
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I'm undressing. Now I'm naked. Nearby are several little girls.
A few are as old as 6, going on 7. Some are naked, too. There are little boys around, and older boys. A few of them are naked, fully or partially. There are also other men around, and -- you guessed it! -- they are big and hairy and naked.
The little girls, some nearly chest high to a man, often appear very interested in all this. They peek or, sometimes, stand and openly stare. Sometimes the little boys and girls gaze at each other, particularly when they're taking showers together, naked. Their dads are there, too -- sometimes naked, though frequently dressed and gingerly attempting to adjust the shower knobs for their kids without getting soaked.
This is not a tale of ancient Rome or even of one of those horrific child abuse cults. It's the typical scene Saturday and Sunday mornings at my dear old neighborhood YMCA in Silver Spring, as parents bring their kids in for swim classes.
For years I never gave it much thought, except to cover myself with a towel or modestly turn sideways in the shower. But after that nationwide ruckus last September over a 6-year-old North Carolina boy kissing a girl on the cheek in school and getting suspended for it, I started wondering.
Clearly my own slight discomfort, I realized, isn't the significant question here -- I'm an adult, I'm not being damaged, I can deal with it.
But what about the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual well-being of the children? If their schools are concerned about sexuality, how healthy is this locker room experience for them? First I decided to ask a few dads.
"I haven't ever had any problems with it," said one father of 4- and 6-year-old daughters whom he'd just dressed. "It's just one of those necessities. I guess it makes some people uncomfortable: I think men have more trouble dressing in front of little girls than the girls have. My one daughter -- she's 6 -- will have to make the transition next year {to the women's locker.} My wife is here today, but most days I'm the only one who can do it."
Another YMCA dad -- he doesn't take his 6-year-old daughter into the men's locker -- had a different view.
"It's inappropriate," he said. "It seems weird."
"It's awkward," his 12-year-old son said.
"It seems out of step with our society," his wife said.
I called Dave Cotten, the ever-cheerful director of the Silver Spring Y. "We get occasional complaints, mostly from the women's side," he said. "Older women complain . . . saying they feel uncomfortable having the little boys in the area when they're showering. So we put up shower curtains in the gang shower area." He said there are fewer complaints from the men, and no shower curtains have been installed in their locker.
Dave added that although the 6-year-old rule is "pretty much the standard in our YMCAs nationally," he considers not having "an alternative place for people to change . . . a problem. Maybe times have changed, maybe there are more single parents who have to deal with both kids, or parents are coming separately. . . . We've tried to figure out what we could do {to} create a room for families to change in, but . . . it would be a big expense."
He said newer rec centers, like Montgomery County's Olney Indoor Swim Center, are being built with family changing rooms -- so I drove out Georgia Avenue to have a look. Indeed there's a small room, separate from the lockers and equipped with a toilet and shower, but since a woman was in there with her kids I had quite a wait to get in.
Clearly it would be slow going to suit up an entire swim class there, and while waiting I noticed a sign by the nearby locker room doors: "CHILDREN 6 YEARS OR OLDER MUST CHANGE IN THE APPROPRIATE LOCKER ROOM." At least they've shaved a year off the Y's standard.
"Little kids in locker rooms are my specialty," joked Steve Hockensmith, a spokesman for the YMCA of the USA headquarters in Chicago, when I phoned. He said the Y's national council has "no policy" and "no recommended guidelines" on age limits for opposite sex locker room use in the 2,168 YMCAs nationwide. He said it could not readily be determined how many of these facilities have a 6-year-old rule like the one in Silver Spring.
Steve faxed me an internal briefing paper on the matter prepared for him by the YMCA of the USA's research and planning department. "There isn't any one right answer to this one -- no magic age to pick that makes the problem go away," the paper says. " . . . You need to make people feel included in the policy-making process and especially make accommodations for all parties. Don't let someone feel like a loser.
"The typical case: A woman complains that a 5-year-old boy is looking all around the locker room with eyes like saucers. . . . No one should feel ogled at the Y. There may not be much privacy in a Y locker room, but there should be freedom from being ogled. . . .
"One complication: Some of the people who may complain about children of the opposite sex in the locker room really don't want any kids at all in the locker room. The good news is that the Y's that have listened to all parties and tried to make accommodations accordingly say that whatever their response was, the issue isn't a big deal."
I phoned Evelyn Fine, vice president for marketing and communications of the YMCA of Metropolitan Washington, who said the other six Y's with pools in our area have the same rule as Silver Spring's. When I asked Evelyn what impact mixed locker rooms might have on children, she admitted she wasn't sure.
"I'm not a child psychologist," she said. "I'd be interested to hear what a child psychologist would say." "You're not talking about showering naked at the same time! I didn't know that's in existence!" exclaimed Joan Kinlan, one of the two psychiatric experts in child and adolescent development to whom the American Psychiatric Association referred me for some answers. "This is total news to me. . . . I think it's terribly inappropriate. I don't think it's healthy."
Evidently, Joan isn't a member of the Y.
She is, however, past president of the local chapter of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and a medical doctor affiliated with Georgetown University Hospital who has treated hundreds of youngsters for psychological problems in more than two decades of private practice.
To begin with, she said, "A lot of molestations take place in bathrooms and locker rooms. Most of them don't end up in the newspapers because the parents are so afraid that their child might be identified and then suffer further. People don't know how many pedophiles are out there -- it's a lot more prevalent than people want to know."
Though fathers are usually with their kids at the Y, Joan said a molestation that can inflict significant psychological damage may require only "30 to 90 seconds. That's all it takes. It creates major problems for the parents and the family, who feel their child has been violated {and} major, major problems for the kid, depending on what was done, and how it was done." Damage may result, she said, from something as simple as "someone touching their little butt and saying, Oh, what a cute little girl.' "
Even without molestation, however, Joan's professional view is that "it's pretty overwhelming to a little girl to be around a number of naked men. . . . It provides a source of sexual stimulation that's inappropriate to the age. Listen, you see kids really being sexual even as babies. They have sexual feelings, but these are not for adults to be involved with. . . .
"Kids come in for therapy: Their parents are going around the house nude. In our liberal society, it's common: Nudity is in nowadays. With most parents, they don't understand why they should cover up, and they're surprised to see their kids' learning problems and disabilities just go away when {the parents cover up}. . . . You'll see a little boy with a blinking tic; he got it when he started showering with his daddy."
As for the Y dads, she said: "A responsible father would realize that he has more alternatives, and exercise them."
Next I phoned Ralph Gemelli, clinical associate professor of psychiatry at the George Washington University medical school. Ralph has worked as an adult and child psychiatrist and psychoanalyst for 20 years and is author of a recently published textbook, "Normal Child and Adolescent Development."
"It's not okay," he said of the situation at the Silver Spring Y.
"I do not think it's good for kids at this age," he continued. "Children from 4 to 8, certainly by age 6, are looking for their parents to give them rules about when they're supposed to show their bodies to anyone else -- rules about body privacy -- and whether any other adults or peers should be showing their bodies to them. . . .
"A little girl who's allowed to be watching all these nude men: That's different from Dad saying, You're not coming in the locker room, no way! I don't care what the rule is. I want to let you know you're at the age now where I don't want any man undressing in front of you. I don't do it, and no other man should. And if anybody tries to do it, I want you to let Mom and Dad know immediately!' "
Ralph explained that age 3 to 6 is when kids are developing "the first building blocks of sexual identity. . . . They become very preoccupied with looking and exhibiting themselves." If they don't get good guidance then, and are encouraged to be naked with strangers of the opposite sex, they're in danger of becoming what's known in the trade as "the sexually overstimulated child."
This can mess up the next stage of development -- "late childhood" from 6 to 11 -- when they're developing what Ralph terms their "burgeoning peer identity, which propels them to want to perform and produce athletically, socially and academically in front of peers. That doesn't include performing sexually in front of peers. . . .
"Here's the thing. A little girl who's seeing too much male nudity, being exposed with her father right next to her, it would be a problem for other little girls she plays with. If she says, I go to the YMCA and I see all the men's penises,' the other children will say, Why are you talking about penises?' . . . In the first and second grades, if a child is talking too sexily, the school will be concerned, too."
In addition, a child's "hyper-arousal . . . often shows up as a learning problem: A child's not learning in school. . . . He has his mind on sexual play, or looking up a teacher's dress. A teacher may say, This child has hyperactivity, he's having trouble paying attention, he's acting up in class.' "
Chillingly, Ralph also mentioned pedophiles.
Studies of these sex abusers' methods, he said, show that a pedophile working as a teacher, for example, "will not make any move in a new school for six years or so, until they've established credibility. So suppose there's a lurking pedophile in a school, and he hears that a little girl was impressed by what she saw at the YMCA.
"He says to her, You know, I heard you went to the Y and enjoyed it, and I'm going down to take a shower now.
" You want to see what I look like?' " I don't know the solution -- and it may be expensive -- but at least I'm a little clearer now about the problem.
"A well-meaning father," as Ralph says, "may not realize that he's inadvertently causing some problems for his daughter. . . . Unfortunately, maybe the YMCA, while well-meaning also, is sending a confusing message to a little child."
Calling around to other recreational clubs, I talked with Ed Metcalfe, manager of Rio Sport and Health in Gaithersburg. "We've got an out-of-the-way family changing area," he reported. "Most families, there's a husband and wife and they take turns with the kids. If need be, we can watch them in the nursery."
"We have a sign up," he said. "No kids of opposite sex allowed."
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