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These hilarious pictures show what happens to you in the Russian army when you make a mistake. Forgot your rifle? Maybe carrying around a huge wooden rifle will help you remember next time! However, while these photos show the lighter side of hazing, the reality is often much more grim.
Dedovshchina is Russian for the unofficial practice of initiation or hazing of junior conscripts of the Soviet Armed Forces. It can be literally translated as “rule of the grandfathers.” In 2006, the NYT reported that at least 292 Russian soldiers were killed by hazing; the Russian military admits that 16 were murdered, and claims that the rest committed suicide.
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That's about the size of an original cell phone.
Same in French army but smaller :) you have to carry it after you forgot your gun somewhere... and write your gun number on it each time you have to carry it... Sweet memories x)
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Photo #6 - it's not a punishment, it's and presentation from air assault troops.
Photo #7 - it's a fake
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btw this is not a punishment, this is part of a training exhibition, intended to show how strong they are. (wish our armed forces would still do this, instead of being so politically correct)
And berfore you start your hate comments.. yes, I`m a veteran and we used to train like hell in the late 80`s and 90`s, and NO, we didn´t go crying home when a drill sgt. was specially tough on us.
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Any armourer worth his salt will tell you this is not something you would ever do, if you want to see another day.
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They are all smiling. Please remember that Russians also have a sense of humour. These are not punishments.
Ugh ... is it just too much to ask, for Americans to have a sense of humour?
"These *hilarious* pictures show what happens to you in the Russian army when you make a mistake." Is it too much for you to read?
Forget the one when they hand you the toothbrush and make you clean 50 + toilet ,stall and floors
They are all smiling. Please remember that Russians also have a sense of humour. These are not punishments.
Ugh ... is it just too much to ask, for Americans to have a sense of humour?
"These *hilarious* pictures show what happens to you in the Russian army when you make a mistake." Is it too much for you to read?
Forget the one when they hand you the toothbrush and make you clean 50 + toilet ,stall and floors
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The video you’ve just watched was apparently filmed at one of India’s military academies. Neither the date of the video clip nor the identities of either the cadet getting beaten with a hockey stick or his senior are known to us.
There are many who have vouchsafed to us that this kind of behavior is routine at the academies and is an essential part of inculcating discipline in cadets and recruits. After all, kambal parade is a thing in the Indian armed forces. Clearly, the senior had no problem being filmed administering the punishment.
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I don’t understand why is everyone getting so sentimental about it? I went through it. And I wouldn’t stop it for my son or anyone. It is essential part as you learn to control your anger towards your senior and just obey with “Yes sir”. This is the kind of discipline which is keeping army upto the standards it is still today. When a senior orders to face the enemy. You just go, no questions asked.
This happens in INA also though officially manhandling is banned.
this is not a ragging, its molding the GCs into a great officer
harjan71 view reminds me of the laughable adventures of Don Quixote, the self-styled knight who took upon himself to live “idiotism” and since then there have been many – harjan74 eccentric response does again reminds me of the legendary “Don Q” – “a three liner” judgment from harjan71, must compel readers to reassess his view “land of spineless toothless piss in pants sissies” What he brings with him to a claim for a country of millions as “cowards” can be attributed to him alone, perhaps harjan71 see himself as the “macho-hero” combine, wip in hand chasing spineless cowards to churn out “rambos”. It is time the nation awarded such thinkers — that for all the cruelty and hardship the nation endures – “This country remains a land of spineless toothless piss in pants sissies” harjan71 seems to have little or no respect for his himself, leave aside the nation? If beating a young lad turns him on – “to justify fear as a means to churn out “soldiers” then he surely needs to do some soul searching” a defeated mind alone can live an ideology harjan71 agrees to. The physical harassment of such deplorable acts is not the issue; the perpetrators to the act can also be forgiven “for being barely out of their shorts” but the streak in them which follows harjan71 comments must be snubbed, lest they develop hardened convictions to live with such behaviour Such acts scars the essence of a young impression-less minds, not only a cadet but also many others who are forced to live such ordeals. we can’t encourage individual freewill scarred forever and tied to a pole analogous to how much freedom the rope allows, a young lad could just fall apart ….! and for the ageing parents it’s a feeling of helpless to a trauma they have to live with –“ children beaten like animals”. Churning out leaders of men/women in war castigated, beaten to be turned into a dumbs more out of fear or retribution may stall the very pleasant feeling of beginning of a career. Issue like this needs more social attention and serious accountability from people responsible to run training academies. Harjan71 would do well to apologize for condemning the youth of this nation as “cowards and spineless sissies” and withdraw his comment, else there may be consequences.
When will we stop crying like women and act like men? A few slaps on the bum with a hockey stick is unbearable? This kind of pathetic cowardice is what has led to our country becoming a land of spineless toothless piss in pants sissies.
I will say well done to both cadets and to raise it several notches.
dir4media dear sir,     For my surprise, there are number of activities as narrated by some of the cadets which degrades the dignity of a cadet in many ways in the Academy .  On further, inquiry, it was revealed that the man handling is very common in the academy and seniors treat the juniors in the most undignified ways.    Other than the above incidence, there are more such things which are matter of concern. These are: The Usthads /drill/Pt instructors also seems to be indulging in undignified acts of man handling cadets using sticks or cane. The same Usthads will have to serve under this cadets once they become officers The DSs are resorting to primitive method of treating the cadets which needs corrective action. Use of some kind of corporal punishments and harassment as a tool also needs to be corrected. This is not an isolated case as we came to understand later.  There is a tradition of seniors manhandling and making the juniors undergo some of the punishments which even one can’t think of giving to your worst enemy. When corporal punishments are banned even in schools, one cannot think of making the cadets to undergo such punishments in the Academy where they are being trained to lead the men in war. The mindset of the DS must change and they need to re orient first and stop using these kinds of punishments as tool to subjugate the cadets.  The senior cadet imitate the DS in intimidating their juniors and subjugate them to menial things. The primitive techniques and traditions if followed now also should be discontinued forthwith. When a visitor interacts with the cadets, they may not  carry any good impression of the atmosphere in the academy as shown in various “Join Army “advertisement films or posters, rather they would carry a scary feeling which when passed on to other citizens  will become an adverse publicity to the army. No class one services such as IAS/IPS/IFS or IDSE etc of this nation treats their trainees in this manner and no seniors in this kind of organization subjugate their subordinate trainees in this fashion. The Academy needs to look in to these aspects, introspect and change the very mind set of the persons responsible for the training. Cadets are forced to lead a life of submissive, not to raise voice, accept all sorts of treatments and complete the training under undue stress.  A cadet who objects to these kinds of actions are understandably singled out.
To summarize the whole thing, the following points need attention: a)    Man-handling of cadets in all Military academy s in any form needs to be prevented and award stringent punishment to persons indulging in these kind of act. b)    Menial and undignified method of punishments which are presently practiced by DSs and senior cadets needs to be stopped with immediate effect. c.   Usthads need to be given proper counseling as to how to conduct themselves during the course of training the GCs/LCs. Proper orientation training to be given to these instructors and periodic feedback through GCs/LCs may be obtained. (A monthly or quarterly feedback on these instructors can be obtained to evaluate the quality of instructors.  Any offender needs to be punished and posted out immediately to drive home the point.  There should be periodical classes/ lectures given to Usthads and told about the dos and don’ts – may be once in a month/quarter) d.    Similarly the DS needs to be trained and periodic feedback through GCs/LCs can be obtained to evaluate the quality of DS.  They also needs to be   told about the dos and don’ts (proper training capsule for the newly posted officers as DS to be given). e.    An independent monitoring team reporting directly to DCCI can be put in place with the responsibilities of checking these aspects. f.     Thrust should be on the scientific way of training the cadets, and not to drain their entire energy by way of various unauthorized/un scheduled punishment extending to late night up to two or three o clock in the night. ( in our good old days no seniors were permitted to punish any juniors beyond 10 PM and defaulter were taken to task by awarding  restrictions or relegation. Only in rare occasions the DS would undertake punishments of cadets in the nights). A cruel punishment schedule puts the cadets under psychological stress digressing from the actual training A cadet cannot be doing punishments all the time and also do the scheduled training simultaneously which will compromise the quality of the actual training, if the Cadet ends up sleeping.    Academy should permit only authorized time tested training programs to be implemented and the so called punishments of any form should be done away with proper corrective training  (in the format of Restrictions/route march etc under proper supervision). g.     Professional help such as Gym instructors can be obtained to train the week Cadets who are unable to pass certain PT test. h.  Training can be scientifically designed to suit the roles they would play as an Army officer. j.      Cadets should be educated about their  rights in the Academy so as to ensure that he/she can object to any undignified treatment once he/she knows his/her rights.  I am sure, the Academy is designed for these purposes only, but some where some thing is getting missed out.  When checks and balances are diluted then there are chances that the very purpose is defeated or only partially achieved.  Cadets coming from various walks of life bring in their bad part of training from schools and try the same with fellow cadets if unchecked. Further, Cadets here are quite matured and are graduates or technical graduates coming from some of the finest institutions. Hence, they cannot be treated in this manner for choosing Army as their profession. What I have stated is my inference based on the interaction I have had from cadets. There may be an element of exaggeration by the cadets who have narrated to me, since I am not witness to these actions. However, to know the clear picture, appropriate authorities can institute an independent inquiry for finding out the facts and take remedial actions.     Academy may bring in army veterans, best think tanks, psychologist, technocrats and so on  to have a re look at the training capsule and if required modify the same to suit to the needs of the 21st  century  Modern Indian Army which is the need of the hour. What we show in various advertisements to lure the youngsters to join army should be true in the Academy itself. The life of a cadet should be made comfortable without compromising the standard of the training in the Academy so as to build robust leaders.
It is very sad that such isolated incidents still continue in the academies. I remember we often got punished in the academy as a group for our acts of omission/commission but the aim probably was to build physical strength and mental resilience. There was no such case of individual being singled out and humiliated. The senior needs to be taken to task.
@commandersaini StratPost Not Acceptable. You do not prepare a cadet like this. This is inhuman
@vikramwkarve StratPost SaurabhJoshi
Sad wish it is not true. But it looks correct. Appear to be of NDA NOT SURE. It must be investigated and put the cadet brought to books. Punishment for improvement is ok not to give injury
How does one know this clip is not from the police academies or from Pakistan’s academies–their culture is so much like ours? or it could be a clip made to malign the defence forces training institutions–anybody could be made to wear a battle fatigue dress nowadays.
Clearly, from the views posted here, even looking from the law and human rights angle, there is a discrepancy between what the ‘senior’ thinks is ‘grooming’ and what the others in this forum think is grooming. Sadly speaking, this debate has not been settled as yet; and though Maj Gen Shokin ADG of Public information has said what he has said in unequivocal terms, there are many doubters out there who think that such behavior is normal. 
I can say from what ever little experience i have with the National Defence Academy, that quiet a few of the youngsters at that academy at least in the decade after 1996 when i served there, believed in such ideas about toughening… I would not have evidence to present if one asked, but i have known credible stories of cadets who have had their legs broken by seniors with hockey sticks, i have seen cadets being pulled up for ‘unnatural acts’, I have witnessed divisional officers use a stick on the backside of cadets during camps (i would not remember who) but sure enough i have witnessed, I have seen etched on desks cadets having written that living in NDA is like living in Hell, I have heard cadets describe to me about bathroom sessions in which a cadet is made to roll between hot and cold showers alternatively at odd times in the night, I have heard of instances of deaths of cadets during ‘grudges’ when juniors have the opportunity to take out grudges on seniors a few days before they pass out of the academy. Ear drums busted because a cadet was slapped by a Div Officer. A majority of cadets losing their sense of idealism and enthusiasm a few months after they land up at the NDA.
Are these aberrations or then are they the norm? Is it just the normal expected thing in a group of youngsters of that age? while dealing with the cadets one, as a civilian, has always witnessed this thing about the pride of the cadet in having been through the NDA… So what have they done here that they believe in an elevated status? … They have not faced a single enemy, not fought a war, not lead any real soldiers, they are not soldiers yet… Just played games, fired rifles, learned the theories, visited some military formations, done parades… what else…? Is it all about a halo in having obeyed orders of fanatical seniors? Is it all about surviving at the NDA despite the onslaught of the ‘toughening’ from seniors? Is it about having been put into situations where a senior has unlimited power over you and you have unlimited power over your junior? 
somewhere there is a hint that this pride of having passed through the academy is more about having to face some real trying situations created by seniors and nothing else. And this seems to be an universal phenomenon in military academies; this is evident from the findings in the Australian Defence Academy where it was discovered that at one stage the alumnus used to take ‘pride’ in having had to pass through a barbaric ‘
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