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Welcome to AlpineZone , the largest online community of skiers and snowboarders in the Northeast! Registering is FREE, gets rid of the majority of advertisements, and lets you participate in giveaways and other AlpineZone events! New posts Latest activity Log in Register. Media New media New comments Search media. Members Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. Log in Register. Search titles only. Search Advanced search…. Search forums. Log in. Install the app. Change style. Contact us. Close Menu. JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Andermatt Switzerland. Thread starter Vince Start date Mar 27, Vince Member. I was asked last summer about going skiing in Andermatt. I knew nothing about it except it was on the Epic pass. Never skied in Europe before. Wasn't even involved in the planning although my wife was which means all Epic pass savings would be lost. Flew non stop Boston to Zurich on Swiss Air. Flight left at 11PM. Got to Zurich 6AM our time. Slept most of the way. Took a train 2. Probably 4 train switches kind of confusing and a pain switching platforms with all the gear. Train ride is very scenic past Lake Luzerne thru the hills. Very green no snow. Train is spacious and more comfortable than any bus. The train station in Andermatt is very close to the gondola. Skiers that live in the Zurich suburbs can take the train. The ski facilities are very modern. Lots of the big yellow snowmaking cannons. Techno Alpine was the name on all the guns. There are trees in the village but none up where the skiing is. Its called Andermatt-Sedrun-Disentis. But its confusing the big mountain is called the Gemsstock and has a ft vertical this is the old mountain. The mountain with all the covered chairs is Andermatt -Sedrun and is the new mountain. I never did figure out where Andermatt ended and Sedrun began. I did not make it to Disentis which is not owned by Vail but is on the Epic pass. Had three sunny 45 degree days. I skied one and skipped one. Western mountains w Eastern snow they had a huge base up top 5 to 7 feet from what I could see. But the surface was very wet and heavy the whole time. All above tree line. No trees at all. A huge negative on bad visibility days. No moguls they groom all designated trails. They put red sticks on both sides of the trail. Beyond the sticks is considered off piste. They do ski off piste all over the place so there are tracks to follow and because there are no trees you can scout it out from the lift pretty well. Very few Americans but you could get by just speaking English. The town is quaint, small and very quiet. Lots of nice restaurants and lodges on the mountain. No plastic cups or paper plates. Food was great and they sure do drink a lot. Did not see one single Vail or Epic pass sign anywhere and I was looking. Hotel was cheaper than in the US and very nice. Food and drink about the same The pros - No tipping took me a few days to figure that out, Easy to sneak weed over, The Scenery and on mountain party scene is much better than ours. The Gemsstock is very steep and top notch expert terrain The cons - No trees, moguls or glades. Television sucks. On the new Andermatt side the trails are very short. Guessing the greatest vertical on any lift is feet. They also have this weird formula where they have a 6 person lift and only 2 designated groomed trails. Too much lift capacity vs. Andermatt is best for experts and strong intermediates. Very little novice terrain. Apart from it not being in English, that is. Click to expand Last edited: Mar 27, Zermatt Active member. A lot of us have been skiing in Europe for years. Wait staff in Switzerland still appreciate a tip, even if just a round up. The bigger news is that beer is far cheaper than the US, same with on mountain dining. BodeMiller1 Well-known member. Also I like your hot choclate and blonds. You should ski at Cannon. Joined Feb 10, Messages Points I first went to CH in or 8 to Davos. No clue. Stayed in a mickey mouse kids room in center of town. After two days of white out scary ass conditions and trees off limits i was riding solo anyway and going in the lower ones i was getting a bit depressed. Lo and behold i walked to other side of town and saw a head shop. I went in and asked for weed. The hot dreadlocks girl working said 'duftsacki' and showed me this little cloth sack and then said policia. I said, ill take it. The german cantons used to have an acceptance of it and you could buy in stores. Good times. Hawk Well-known member. I tipped the floor maids 2 Eu per day and gave the head waiter in the hotel 20 Eu at the end of the week each time. We alway do half board. These people work as hard as anybody and deserve a few Euro for thier efforts. The do appreciate it and when you do, they come right over and give great service for the rest of your visit. That trip from Zurich is only 70 miles. You should have done a car service, bus or shared van. Just do it. What the hell you are on vacaion. Zermatt is different, you have to take a train because there are no cars. Andermatt is know for expert and back country skiing. I have never been but I will make it there and Interlaken also. If you want more varied skiing and woods, try any of the other places I skied above. Hawk said:. OK so I am wordy. Sorry Simply. You should tip at least a little. People work hard and they appriciated it. It does get you better service especially if you frequent the place over the course of the week. We tipped him on the first day and for the rest of the week our drinks were on the table in about 2 minutes after we sat. Same with Giovanni at the hotel. A true masterclass bartender. It they down right suck. No tip. Well tipping is the norm for me. I do it because it is the right thing and they apprciated it and respond. You are splitting hairs. I tip everybody all the time unless they are rude or horrible. And no mater where I have gone, people have apprieciated it. If tipping is the norm, they would just accept it, say thank you and go on to server other customer just the same. Ok man. I understand your point. I still think you are splitting hairs. Smellytele Well-known member. Joined Apr 1, Messages 20 Points 1. BodeMiller1 said:. I actually didn't know that. BenedictGomez Well-known member. Vince said:. Last edited: Mar 28, I must've missed it. I have reason to believe BodeMiller1 is a bot. It exhibits similar characteristic. You must log in or register to reply here. 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Registration's totally free, of course, and makes snowHeads easier to use and to understand, gives better searching, filtering etc. When you register, you get our free weekly -ish snow report by email. It's rather good and not made up by tourist offices or people that love the tourist office and want to marry it either We don't share your email address with anyone and we never send out any of those cheesy 'message from our partners' emails either. Anyway, snowHeads really is MUCH better when you're logged in - not least because you get to post your own messages complaining about things that annoy you like perhaps this banner which, incidentally, disappears when you log in Username:- Password:. Or: Register to be a proper snow-head, all official-like! Prev topic :: Next topic. Poster: A snowHead. Idontknow , i wouldn't get too concerned about being hit by drunken skiiers on the slopes - it's really a very rare occurrence despite what you might read in the media. However, if you are looking for a more relaxed skiing experience where alcohol is less of a thing, have you considered Scandinavia? In general, the resorts here are quieter and people tend to ski more considerately. Avoid the peak holiday weeks weeks in Sweden and you'll likely have very few queues. There will be a few UK visitors but the cost of alcohol puts off most of the party crowd. Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person. Secondly although not exactly rare it certainly isn't the norm in most places most skiers are reasonably behaved. Inevitably crowded resorts seem to be a bit worse. I would just look to go to a less popular resort outside peak season. Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? Kaltenbach, Nassfeld hardly any Brits in either. You need to Login to know who's really who. You only need one moron in the whole resort and to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Its impossible to avoid them. Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. Or one of the smaller swiss resorts: Flumserberg. Mostly locals from the region up to Zurich. They mostly can ski and are not in for the party You'll need to Register first of course. You could pick a resort with very few on mountain huts and bars? Then you can post your own questions or snow reports The Scandi suggestion seems good. After all it is free. I absolutely get that British skiers can be drink focused, but so are the Dutch, the French, the Germans, the Swedes and especially the norwegians. And no nation is a better drunk. I think this thread is just bait. You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. I smell stanton. Ski the Net with snowHeads. I don't agree with this. I'm Dutch, but not dancing on the table and frequently ashamed of my countrymen's behavior. The Swedish have special boat trips going nowhere, just outside the 12 miles zone, with their only purpose to get stupidly drunk on the cheap. How low can you go. As for the Dutch. They go to Austria. Outside Austria, you only see them in ValTho. ValTho used to be a sportive skiers Mecca, but has become Salou in the snow. Better go to Tignes. Don't go to Austria. If you must, avoid the 2 Dutch carnival weeks. Avoid Gerlos, Mayrhofen, Saalbach, Flachau etc. The worst offender nations: 1. Sweden 3. The French are certainly not big drinkers on the slopes, thecramps. I disagree about this being Stanton, too. And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much. Onnem wrote: Maurienne. La Thuile. Schladming itself? From tomorrow onwards very busy for three months, crowds, lift queues, and the alcohol culture. You know it makes sense. I would also suggest italy. You cant avoid families but drunks getting down the pistes after 20 odd jaegermeisters is not something you ll see often here. Carabinieri piste patrol do check, and fine for irresponsible behaviour including erratic skiing, going too fast, alcohol. I have seen them doing alcohol checks and the fines are the same as drunken driving, including being banned from the resort and ski pass confiscated. Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:. I know exactly the sort of British drinking culture you mean, and my limited experience is that it doesn't tend to make its way to the slopes. Groups that tend to make drinking the focus of the holiday are far more likely to be found in places like the Canaries and Balaerics, where the booze is cheap. Most places will be fine, and not too crowded if you go outside of school holidays, and just avoid the obvious party places when you get there. You'll hear them from outside, just don't go in. There's always a quieter option. Very few Brits there either. Agreed-thought it was a wind up straight away! The quieter resorts without crowds are those that attract young families. Owlette wrote: I know exactly the sort of British drinking culture you mean, and my limited experience is that it doesn't tend to make its way to the slopes. Exactly this. Someone mentioned La Clusaz, the quintessential French ski station. I don't think I came across a single Brit the last time I was there. There are so many French in Meribel you won't notice the other nationalities. I'm a regular and have not seen drunkenness on the piste since the Russians stopped coming. Anyway, the snowboarders all have music in their ears and half of them are high on weed. I would therefore recommend a helmet and body armor. Or just stop to rest at the side of the piste instead of in the middle of a junction. I don't know about the bars because I'm in bed by 9. It may depend on when you go to Meribel. Last March, I don't remember meeting a single Brit on the mountain except the ones I went with. I suppose if you are solo you will share the chairlift with more people. Anyway, I think that French is the by far the most common language across the whole area. However, they are often rude and have been known to drink at lunch time too. Hey ho. Can't wait to get up there. Idontknow wrote: I hope I don't come across as rude or racist, I am just worried You do, extremely on both counts. And also extremely elitist. Effectively two huge resorts, both very quiet after 7pm due to the French majority having retreated to their apartments. OP said Brits. I never saw 1 in Nassfeld. I'm surprised at the suggestions of Schladming. We were out last evening and it was deserted, one of the bars we frequent was closed, and one other had about ten in, of which two groups were mellow mature Brits. It is amazing how it has mellowed since all the main Tour ops scaled down their operations. Very few Brits. Maybe Dutch as the road journey is favourable for them. Found ellmau very Dutch, very few Brits. Saalbach pretty much same as above. La Thuile is really sleepy. Good link to La Rosiere when wind behaving and hourly bus to Courmayeur. Worse in mayrhofen, hence not suggested. Many resorts are packed with badly behaved yoofs and their parents in the half term period, skiing badly etc. The notion that French families spend little in resort and don't rent skis does not reflect my experience. Sure there will be some Brits and a few Dutch, but they'll be there for the skiing, not the drink, and won't be there en masse as if they owned the place like in other places. And since last season or was it the season before last? And Carabinieri patrol the slopes. Although saying that, it doesn't stop the Carabinieri stopping off at a bar for a drink while still in uniform. Yeah, never seen any excessive drinking in the smaller Italian resorts. Excellent standard of skiing too. Empty slopes on weekdays. Reasonably priced tasty food. Any Brits tend to be the culture vulture types What's not to like? To be brutally honest I'd rather a bunch of boozy Brits than a bunch of snobby Irish who are disgusted to find you are from the same place as them and you've ruined their exclusivity. THEY are the worst. Idontknow wrote: stanton wrote: Strange Question.. I presume you are not British and just living in the UK? I have never heard of foreigners living in for example Germany , Holland , France or any other European Country specifically requesting 'Without' tourists from the country they reside in.. I can probably understand why though Langerzug , is not correct in her assesemnet of St Anton.. Those days are long gone.. The Drinking Culture sometimes aggresive has shifted to my fellow countrymen Dutch and more so the woman im very sorry to say and Belgiums are moving up the league in incidents and of course the young Swedes but they go their beds.. English is just common communication language.. However 'UK Natonals ' per se are very much a minority nowadays. Germans still dominate the Market here. I like Brits actually, they're fun It's just skiing is an injury prone sport, and on the same day I read 2 different cases of Brits hitting on the slopes, one was badly injured he had to be airlifted to the hospital. I'm kinda trying to avoid irrresponsible skiers I guess. And certainly drunk teenagers Brits tend to do drinking holidays as a group often. I noticed some Brits lose control a bit when they drink, and some start quite early in the day. I hope I don't come across as rude or racist, I am just worried if you read a german forum about skiing, resorts etc and read how many of these kind of accindets happened during the last weeks, probably you will have to change the title : skiing without British, German, Dutsch and Austrian People Either try to avoid the high season and avoid party resorts, or buy ski touring equipment. And they are drinking also and not only bier. Ischgl's worth a look. It's becoming more and more popular with Brits. It IS quite boozy but only in town no crowd of drunks trying to ski home and easy to avoid if you don't wish to partake. That boozy apres culture does make it quite and adult resort though, so children are generally few and far between. Despite being where I learnt to ski it has a reputation for not being a good beginner resort, so you don't see trains of snowplowers snaking the full width of every slope. It's a very good blue resort though so attracts a lot of competent blue skiers New Topic Post Reply. Snow Snow Snow! Solo Skiers v Groups - Orga Archives Lost and Found Ski Club of Great Britain To one side secret Mountain Hideout snowShops You cannot post to forums until you login You cannot read some forums until you login Read about snow conditions : snow conditions And leave your own snow report : snow report Find advice to help plan your ski holidays : ski holidays The snowHeads Ski Club : Ski Club 2. Terms and conditions Privacy Policy. Snow Reports. After all it is free After all it is free. So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much. Onnem wrote:. Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:. Last edited by Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? Mother hucker wrote:. Owlette wrote:. Idontknow wrote:. I hope I don't come across as rude or racist, I am just worried. VolklAttivaS5 wrote:. Italy would work. Strange Question.. Baron von chippy wrote:.

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