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Updated October 7, 2020 1.7m views16 items
Intrafamilial relations is a controversial subject, but art doesn't exist to cater to our sense of decency or wholesomeness. Incest, being a great taboo, has been taken on by many directors and writers, in order to shock audiences and ask serious questions about the nature of familial and sexual relationships. These depictions in movies run a wide gamut, but they always ask audiences to consider uncomfortable truths. 
There are dozens upon dozens of films with plots regarding intrafamilial relations, from Hollywood classics like Chinatown to indie hits like The Ballad of Jack and Rose. Yet no one does incest like the provocateurs of world cinema, and in particular, the Europeans. Foreign movies handle the sensitive subject in myriad ways, from harrowing depictions of abuse within families and the denial that follows to oddly touching portrayals. Watching films like Oldboy and Murmur of the Heart, we question whether these prohibited relationships are okay, or at the very least understandable and forgivable contingent upon circumstance.
That said, some incest films have been referred to as "the most f*cked up films" ever, some nothing more than a litany of increasingly absurd offensive scenes. In other instances, real-life relatives have played sexually inappropriate characters on film. Check out the best foreign films about this taboo below.
Photo: Dogtooth / Kino International
It’s probably kind of hard not to develop an incestuous relationship with your siblings when they're the only people you see. In Greek provocateur Yargos Lanthimos's bizarre Dogtooth (2010), a mother and father keep their three children completely isolated from the outside world. They are petrified of cats, which their father tells them are the most dangerous creatures in the world and that the felines eat humans.
The father is the only one who leaves the house, and he eventually brings a female employee of his home to have relations with his son. After the woman introduces the children to Hollywood movies, the father finds it unacceptable and banishes her. Subsequently, the siblings start having relations with one another. 
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Serge Gainsbourg's Charlotte for Ever (1986) is intimate. Serge actually stars in the movie with his daughter, Charlotte. There are lots of moments of Serge lurking behind her, whispering tenderly in her ear, wrapping his arms around her, etc. Although there are no intrafamilial relations on-screen, it's certainly implied.
When the film came out, French audiences rejected it. They also called into question how autobiographical the film was, as many believed Charlotte and Serge had a sexual relationship in real life. Always provocateurs, the father-daughter duo released a song called "Lemon Incest" the same year the movie came out. Some find it's hardly a coincidence Serge used his daughter's name in the film's title. 
It's with good reason The Daily Beast called Kim Ki-Duk’s Moebius (2013) "The Most F*cked Up Movie of the Year." It will leave you squirming in your seat. The director had to cut 80 or so seconds from the film for it to be released properly in South Korea.
In the movie, a father (JaeHyeon Jo) cheats on his wife (Eun-woo Lee) with a mistress (also Eun-woo). Catching him in the act, the wife tries to castrate the husband in his sleep. He stops her in the act, so she goes to her teenage son's room and castrates him instead, then eats his member. The mother leaves and the father castrates himself to stand in solidarity with his son (Young Ju Seo). He then searches the web for how a man might experience sexual release without a phallus and discovers self-harm, which he teaches to his son.
You don't have to worry about subtitles for this South Korean film because there's no dialogue. There are plenty of screams, moans, and grunts, though. The silence in the film exacerbates the level of discomfort viewers feel.
Thomas Vinterberg said Festen (1998) was "the most enjoyable project I’ve ever been involved in, even though I penetrated a layer of evil and abomination I'd never been to before." After viewing the film, you may be left with a similar experience. While the film's journey is entertaining and subtly comical, the underlying story is tragic and exposes horrifying family secrets.
In the Danish film, siblings Christian, Michael, and Helene come together at their family's rural hotel for their father's 60th birthday. The family is in disarray upon arrival, due to the recent self-inflicted loss of the eldest sister, who was Christian's twin. At dinner, Christian announces that his father harmed him and his twin sexually, which is why she ended her life.
Psychologist Richard Gartner praised the film for accurately portraying the effects of such harm within a family:
The father denies the incest through most of the movie, and this denial is conveyed and reinforced in the reactions of those who hear the accusations. The partygoers are momentarily shocked by each disclosure, but then continue to celebrate the birthday in a nearly surrealistic manner that serves as a dramatic enactment of the chronic denial often seen in incestuous families.
Festen was the first film in the Dogme 95 movement, pioneered by Vinterberg and Lars Von Trier.
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How common is incest in the Southern United States?
Updated 1 year ago · Upvoted by William Hood, lives in The United States of America (2003-present) · Author has 3.9K answers and 26.8M answer views
Originally Answered: How common is inbreeding in the Southern United States?
Vance Randolph
(1892–1980) was the premier folklorist of the Ozark Mountains, publishing one of the richest bodies of folklore ever documented in the US. (For anyone who doesn’t know US geography that well, the Ozarks are shown here, straddling the states of Missouri and Arkansas and extending just a little into Oklahoma:)
Randolph published several collections of folktales and stories he’d collected. But only at the end of his life, and after his death, could his collections of “unprintable” material be published. Anyone who thinks that past generations of Americans were sober, God-fearing, pu
Vance Randolph
(1892–1980) was the premier folklorist of the Ozark Mountains, publishing one of the richest bodies of folklore ever documented in the US. (For anyone who doesn’t know US geography that well, the Ozarks are shown here, straddling the states of Missouri and Arkansas and extending just a little into Oklahoma:)
Randolph published several collections of folktales and stories he’d collected. But only at the end of his life, and after his death, could his collections of “unprintable” material be published. Anyone who thinks that past generations of Americans were sober, God-fearing, pure-minded people who kept to the straight and narrow way and never strayed from Traditional American Family Values needs to read his collection, Pissing in the Snow and Other Ozark Folktales
. Ozarkers were no more sex-crazed than anyone else, but some of them certainly appreciated bawdy humor, and some tellers (though not all) amassed a sizable repertoire of raunchy songs and tales.
I bring this up because Ozark folk certainly used to joke about incest. Some of the jokes are kind of cringey, but I’ll give just one sample: “What’s an Arkansas virgin? A girl who can outrun her brothers.” You get the idea. But Randolph said that while Ozarkers found incest funny, it was hard to tell just how taboo it actually was. It doesn’t seem to have been encouraged. (Why did they joke about it? The title of another of Randolph’s folklore compilations may explain it: We Always Lie to Strangers.)
Where you tended to get actual inbreeding in the South tended to be in remote areas that are, or were, hard to reach: Mountain valleys in the Ozarks and Appalachians, or settlements in south Louisiana (which didn’t get paved roads until the 1930s). And it didn’t happen because people were trying to mate with their close relatives; it’s just that in an isolated population with few newcomers, after a few generations everybody is kin to everybody else. I have been told that if you are from one of the older families in St. Martinville, Louisiana, and you marry someone from St. Martinville, you are marrying your second cousin or closer—simply because every family there is related, after 200+ years of intermarriage with not that many new people moving in. So mountain communities tend to get some inbreeding, not because the people particularly want to shag their cousins, but because after a few generations, every potential mate is a relative.
Probably the most famous case of inbreeding started with Martin Fugate and his wife Elizabeth Smith, who settled in a remote part of Perry County, Kentucky, called Troublesome Creek. Both of them just happened to be carriers of a recessive allele for methemoglobinemia—in which the body produces a less efficient form of hemoglobin. Methemoglobinemia isn’t fatal, but affected persons have decreased stamina—and their skin has a bluish tinge. One of Martin and Elizabeth’s children had methemoglobinemia, and that child married his mother’s sister (I assume because nobody else was available in Perry County, 200 years ago) and thus they founded a whole family of “Blue Fugates
”. The trait also turned up in allied families that intermarried with them: there were once “blue Stacys” and “blue Combs’s” and other families with a history of blue people turning up. A hematologist, Dr. Madison Cawein, found out about the “blue Fugates” in the 1960s, and he was able to treat them with methylene blue. (Yes, you treat blue skin by taking a blue dye.) The trait also grew less common as roads and railroads finally came in, and people were more able to move in and out. The last known “blue Fugate” was born in 1975. (See Kentucky Blues
)
Disclaimer: This is a painting created for the magazine article cited above; it is not a picture of actual Blue Fugates. See Finding The Famous Painting of the Blue People of Kentucky | DNA Science Blog
.
This is a photo of the hands of an actual methemoglobinemia patient, although this person is not a “Blue Fugate.” Source: https://jetem.org/methemoglobinemia/
So your answer is that it was more common once, not everywhere in the South, but in isolated populations that weren’t easy to reach or to leave because of poor transportation and poverty. It’s less common now that transportation is much easier and people are much more mobile.
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Vita Noel, lives in The United States of America
Answered 1 year ago · Upvoted by Richard Redmond, lives in The United States of America and Wyndal Messick, lives in The United States of America (1964-present) · Author has 495 answers and 502.5K answer views
Originally Answered: How common is inbreeding in the Southern United States?
Back in the early ’70s as a teenager, I stumbled across Tobacco Road (1932) at the library. I had never read anything about white culture in such an unflattering light thru the 1970s. This was long before cable TV, Internet, and news shows like 60 Minutes, and in particular, reality TV shows and Cops.
Until then, I had only seen the cultural window dressing of whites living an idyllic life as seen in Andy Griffith’s Mayberry, Dick Van Dyke Show, I Love Lucy, Doris Day Show, Hallmark specials and Disney movies. Just a guess, but these media portrayals fueled the existing narrative of the America
Back in the early ’70s as a teenager, I stumbled across Tobacco Road (1932) at the library. I had never read anything about white culture in such an unflattering light thru the 1970s. This was long before cable TV, Internet, and news shows like 60 Minutes, and in particular, reality TV shows and Cops.
Until then, I had only seen the cultural window dressing of whites living an idyllic life as seen in Andy Griffith’s Mayberry, Dick Van Dyke Show, I Love Lucy, Doris Day Show, Hallmark specials and Disney movies. Just a guess, but these media portrayals fueled the existing narrative of the American Dream. Much of the rest of the world wanted to come here and live, having not seen what had been swept under the rug. It gave us all something to aspire to.
So the book was a real shock, and graphically portrayed a not thought much about subset of the culture. The setting was rural Georgia. The characters were dirt poor and ignorant, and the story told from their viewpoint. For them, their lives were the norm. No PC thinking, no apologies, no subtle social narrative of explaining, no group victim mindset. The humor is both raunchy and shocking, and the story has undercurrents of incest, sex with the underaged, and topics and conversations that would offend or enrage many people if published now. The book gives a view into one of the many windows of American history of a small cultural subset.
Incest and occasionally inbreeding was a consequence, and Appalachia and the deep, rural South had reputations for this not being uncommon. My old college professor who taught The Philosophy of Sexuality back in the late ’70s told us he and his sister had a sexual relationship when they were teens (in the early ‘60s), and he thought it was normal and that everyone did this with their sisters. He said it wasn’t until he left his rural home and went to college that he learned otherwise.
Incest is generational. Kids grow up knowing about it; for them it’s normal unless they learn differently at school, church, or thru Social Services showing up at their door.
An example of this mindset can be seen in the first minute and a half of this heartbreaking video from 2017, titled “Cops Vs Appalachian Hillbillies - Episode 1, 13-year old & mom dating the same man”.
That mother’s response, “If he wants to be with her, I don’t care”, shocking as it is, didn’t come out of nowhere. Odds are she - and the boyfriend - grew up around this certain mindset that is common in families with sexual abuse or incest, going back generations.
Also note the reactions of the cops. The encounter with this family appears to leave them unfazed, as though they’ve showed up to situations like this many times in their career. And for the life of me, I can’t understand why the kid was arrested no matter what happened. The call was for domestic violence, but she was describing sexual abuse and the mom and boyfriend admitted to it, too ignorant to know better.
For most Quora readers, I’ll assume your reaction was jaw-dropping. For the mother, daughter, and boyfriend, you get the sense this kind of dilemma was generationally normal.
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Is incest between a mother and her son common in the US?
Is it true that incest is prevalent in Alabama and other southern states?
Why is incest in the US becoming so popular?
Am I the only one who is incest or has incest on my own mom and sister?
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