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[ Belated spoiler alert because we cannot believe that people weren't glued to their TV sets last night to see this crazy finale - many apologies ] Attractive young actresses who look great in a suit, beware: If you're cast as the new assistant district attorney to work with Jack McCoy, your character might come to some sort of strange end. Last year - yes, just January 2005 - Elisabeth Rohm(bot) left the show and uttered those classic words , "Is it because I'm a lesbian?" and Annie Parisse filled her shoes as ADA Alexandra Borgia. But that's nothing compared to dying from aspirating through your duct taped mouth in a car trunk with blood all over your face, to be found by your boss and other police officers. A poster on the Television Without Pity forum (though not the "Earthy European Sexuality: ADA Alexandra 'Bertha' Borgia" forum) asked if she was forced to leave the show because she was heterosexual. Good question - insurance policies at the DA's office must be crazy. We can't wait to find out who is cast next, so we can write fanfic about how they'll be written off!
What did you think of the Law & Order season finale? That shooting (did they use a bazooka - that shotgun was huge) on Bleecker Street was pretty intense. And in the history of past ADAs, Abby (Angie Harmon) Carmichael left to work at the Justice Department, Jamie (Carey Lowell) Ross wanted to spend more time with her daughter, Claire (Jill Hennessy) Kincaid died from a car accident, and Paul (Richard Brooks) Robinette left to go into private practice. Plus, ADA Alex Cabot was fake-killed off from Law & Order: SVU , only to resurface this past season and work in the failed Dick Wolf show, Conviction .
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Fun Fact: Annie Parise appeared on the show as a stripper before she become ADA Borgia. She was in law school at the time I believe. 🥸
I have no way to confirm or deny this, but I remember reading somewhere that the actress wanted to come back as the same character and have her backstory be that she worked as a stripper to pay for law school, but they wouldn't let it through.
They just brought her back as ADA. Great heel turn. I wonder what that phone call was like
“Hey I know we had you on as a stripper before, but can u come back full time as a lawyer? No no an entirely different person…”
I just discovered that Annie Parisse's brother is married to Sam Waterston's daughter. It's a small world.
That’s like Keith Morrison’s son in law being Matthew Perry!
Milena Govich played a bartender on S16 E2, then became Detective Nina Cassidy in Season 17. They were two completely separate characters, as well.
When you have a show as big as this that has crossover characters from other shows it bothers me when actors play different characters. The actress playing Van Buren, played a mother in a previous episode, the actor playing prosecuting attorney Barba, on SVU played a criminal on criminal intent. I don’t like the inconsistency because sometimes a person comes back as the same character and sometimes they come back as a different character.
I usually don’t have a problem with it, but it bugs me when they bring back an actor and give them a new character that has the same occupation as the original.
There was one guy who played a Defense Attorney and then came back as a Defense Attorney a few seasons later except this time, he had a completely different name.
Like what was the point of that? Why didn’t they just keep the original character’s name or use a different actor?
Jeremy Sisto played a lawyer one episode before he came on as Lupo
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The Law And Order Death That Fans Think Went Too Far
By Bethy Squires / Dec. 5, 2021 1:00 pm EDT
Among its many elements, the long-running NBC crime drama "Law & Order" is known for its crime scenes. They usually only appear at the beginning of each episode. These scenes are, more often than not, mere set dressing, and the main focus tends to be whatever quips Lenny Briscoe (Jerry Orbach) or Kevin Bernard (Anthony Anderson) are saying more than the bloody scene on the ground.
Compared to the procedural shows that came after, the death tableaus of the original "Law & Order" were quite tasteful. "Bones," a show about identifying remains too decayed to recognize, has some of the grossest dead bodies on television. The original "CSI" was known for its sensationalistic approach to crimes. "[O]n 'CSI,' a 'very special episode; means only one thing: the show is going to delve into the tawdry depths," wrote TODAY in 2005. But there is one death on "Law & Order" that went too far, both in terms of the crime scene and the character who was killed off.
Alexandra Borgia, played by Annie Parisse, was the shortest-tenured assistant district attorney in the history of "Law & Order," although not by any choice her character makes. Borgia is murdered in the Season 16 episode "Invaders" (via IMDb ). She is kidnapped while investigating a rash of murders that involve impersonating federal officers. Halfway through the episode, her body is found bound, beaten, and gagged in the trunk of a car. We are told she died of asphyxiation by choking on her own vomit. Enraged by what happens to Borgia, Jack McCoy (Sam Waterston) tries to get a confession from her killer under false pretenses. He is eventually taken off the case for being too emotionally involved.
Although this "Law & Order" episode aired in 2006, fans of the procedural are still talking about it today. In a post to the subreddit r/LawAndOrder shared earlier this year, viewers thought Borgia's death was too lurid for a main character, even if that character appeared on a show that regularly covered troubling topics. Reddit user u/LemonyLime118 began by saying the show didn't hold back "with an explicitly shown kidnapping before revealing her bloody corpse in the trunk of a car that they then zoomed in on multiple times, complete with a grizzly, detailed explanation of the cause of death."
Other Redditors hopped on u/LemonyLime118's subreddit post to share their thoughts, and many agreed that ADA Borgia's death was a step too far, even by "Law & Order" standards. User u/Drakkenfyre agreed they were bothered by the scene, noting, One of the things I loved about 'L&O' is how the violence mostly happens off-screen. But man, for such a brutal act, it just carried next to no emotional weight."
Others disagreed, feeling that the brutality of what happened to Borgia was necessary to motivate McCoy to violate his personal ethics. "His determination to nail those responsible ramped up, and it explains his reasons for taking the gloves off and dancing close to the line of unethical conduct," wrote u/TSARINA59 , who went on to say McCoy's behavior made him more understandable.
Unfortunately, the media tends to kill off female characters in order to motivate the male protagonists. This narrative trope, often seen on television, is called "fridging" (via TV Tropes ). The name comes from an infamous event in comics history when Green Lantern's girlfriend is killed and stuffed in a refrigerator. "Law & Order" mostly avoids falling into the fridging trap by putting a majority of the focus on a new crime every week rather than the lives of the characters — but it does happen across the franchise. Other characters stuffed into the metaphorical fridge in the "Law & Order" universe include Kathy Stabler (Isabel Gillies). Her death at the start of "Law & Order: Organized Crime" motivates her husband, Elliot (Christopher Meloni), to find her killer.
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Nearly all of the principal actors and actresses were using their natural accents (be they American, Russian, Czech, Italian, et cetera) with a few notable exceptions. Mark Ryder (Cesare Borgia) and Diarmuid Noyes (Alessandro Farnese) are Irish but used English accents on the show. Even Stanley Weber (Juan Borgia) moderates his French accent, though he doesn't sound as English as his on-screen brother. This is because the series was intended for dubbing into non-English European languages (French, German, et cetera).
A choke pear (called "Pope's pear") is used to torture a convicted homosexual in the 2nd season. Choke pears were unknown before the 17th century, more than 100 years after the show's time frame. 15th century's punishments for pederasty were not so cruel (penalty, branding).
A very good show, clever, raw, full of life.
Is it perfect? No. The accents and some displays of over the top drama bothered me at first, but I soon forgot I was watching TV, as I was engrossed in the fascinating politics of the conclave and the presentation of the amazing Spanish family. Borgia (canal +) a very good show. Ambitious, clever, dark, and yet funny, shocking and entertaining. I think it captures really well what it was like to live in these violent times without "modernizing" the characters. It never judges, simply exposing theirs lives and minds, so similar and yet so different from ours. I love Doman's Rodrigo as much as I hate Irons's one in The Borgias (he's more a Della Rovere). Domans portrayal is raw and full of life. Lucrecia, Juan, Vanozza, Gulia, Alessandro, Della Rovere are very well cast and nuanced and complex characters. Mark Ryder is simply incredible as Cesare Borgia,growing from a stubborn, tormented and insecure teenager to the megalomaniac and ruthless genius Machiavel wrote about. The history is very well researched, and never dumbed down to the audience. I find the costumes and the grim settings very appropriate. The show is punctuated by violent scenes which remind us how uncertain personal fortunes were, how lives were easily crushed without remorse. The nudity and the love scenes are very well filmed and feel natural. I've tried watching The Borgia, but I stopped after the end of the first season. It was pretty but empty, silly (the incest obsession). Like the Kardashians but with people who happened to bear the name of Borgia (the real history is much more interesting). The characters were going nowhere :Irons a sad ghost without will, Cesare plotting his way to his sister bed with no other ambition, Lucrezia was like a annoying kitten and Juan a brainless fool. Borgia is a very superior show, in my opinion.
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