18th Street Latinos

18th Street Latinos




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18th Street Latinos
By Alex Alonso Staff Writer Streetgangs
updated December 22, 2002
updated June 25, 2008
I n Los Angeles the 18th Street gang is considered the largest gang in Los Angeles County but that label is very misleading. Even though 18th Street are estimated to have approximately 15,000 members in Los Angeles County, they are actually a collection of approximately 20 separate individual autonomous gangs operating under the same label with separate barrios in the San Fernando Valley, the San Gabriel Valley, the South Bay, South Los Angeles, Downtown Los Angeles, Pico Union, Inglewood, and Cudahy. Some estimates of the 18th Street are as low as 8,000 members. The notoriety of the gang is based on four distinct barrios, three near downtown Los Angeles west of the Staple’s Center and the 110 Freeway, and one in the West Adams area.
The individual factions can number from 50 to several hundred members and they are dispersed throughout the County, but their strong hold and their oldest barrio is located in the Pico Union (Grand View, Hoover clicks) area east of the Staples Center between the Harbor 110 Freeway (east) and Hoover Ave (west). Slightly to the north, are two other barrios in the Shatto Park and MacArthur Park (Colombia Lil Cycos click) areas. There are also two significant size 18th Street Barrios in South LA, one between Vernon (north) and Slauson (south) along Vermont Avenue and the second one being between Florence (north) and 91st Street (south). One of the most infamous 18th Street neighborhoods would be in the West Adams (Smiley, Alsace, Lil Lowks) because member Catorina Gonzales was convicted for killing LAPD officer Filbert Cuesta in 1998, and more recently, member Pedro Espinoza was charged in the murder of High School star athlete Jamiel Shaw stemming from the conflict with the Bloods.
The media often states that 18th Street is the largest gang in Los Angeles, but the largest single Hispanic gang in terms of turf size and membership would be one of 18th Street’s main rivals, the Florencia 13 gang that has a turf that stretches from Western (west) to Compton Avenues (east). Members of this gang were indicted by the Federal Government in a RICO case in 2007 on drug trafficking and murder charges.
The 18th Street gang formed around 1965 in the Pico Union area when members of larger Westside Clanton 14th Street neighborhood decided to start a new click. Originally, 18th Street was a click of the bigger Clanton 14th Street neighborhood (First Hood) who had another neighborhood, Eastside Clanton that was split by the freeway construction of the early 1950s.
As membership of Clanton grew, newer members who lived off of 18th Street decided to start Clanton 18th Street . Forming a new click of a gang can sometimes be a challenge, because some members may look at it as an action that does not unify but separates the neighborhood, and possibly creates division between members that will be forced to choose sides during a conflict. On the other hand, adding a click can expand the turf, bring in more members, and make the neighborhood appear to be stronger.
There is usually a protocol to creating a new click and each neighborhood is different when it comes to that, but ultimately Clanton 14 core members did not approve of having Clanton 18. One of the reasons why original Clanton members began to reject the 18th click, was because it was being led by a non Mexican-American, named Rocky Lee Glover (b. 1950 – ).
The new click members had to make a decision between falling in line with Clanton 14 and the strict rule of Mexican-Americans only, or take a defiant position to start their own gang and create Varrio 18th Street.
Some decided to stay with the more established Clanton identity, but Rocky Glover and a dozen other teens decided to just simply dropped the Clanton off their name and then became rivals against them. As the years progressed, Clanton lost most of their first westside hood in the Pico-Union area, and today that area is completely dominated by 18th Street and a few other gangs. Other early 18th Street members during the 1960s included Beto, Eddie Boy, Goofy, Indio, Penguin, Tank, Toro and Smiley who were initially Clanton members of the 1st hood that all decided to take their click into another direction.
Clanton did not disappear though as their neighborhood in Hollywood off Beverly has survived and their other Eastside neighborhood still exists in two areas. Most gangs today have clicks and there is usually little resistance from the rest of the gang when members want to start a new click, because there is a perceived benefit to the entire gang as outsiders will assume the gang is growing, and it provides a psychological edge against their rivals.
Through a small act of defiance, one of the most well known gangs was born in Los Angeles. Because of its aggressive recruiting techniques of accepting members even if they were not Mexican-American, the name of this gang has caught on and has been copied and mimicked in several other cities and countries around the world. Contrary to popular belief, not all of the 18th Street neighborhoods operate in unison, know each other, or even get along.
Since its inception, youth from every large city in the US, Canada, Mexico and countries in Central & South America America, Europe and most likely several other cities and countries have adapted the use of the name 18th Street. Because of the wide spread popularity, the FBI has labeled this gang a transnational gang with global reach, but there is no evidence to support the existence of any such global network in which the 18th Street gang operates between cities or across national borders. Because of deportation, the gang culture of LA was introduced into Mexico and Central America , but transnational linkages in which the 18th Street gang operate have not been uncovered thus far. A study from 2007 found that international connections among Hispanic gangs like 18th Street and Mara Salvatrucha were over stated and that there were no signs of transnational coordination among gang members. Academic studies have also fell short from identifying these types of networks among Los Angeles based Hispanic gangs.
Any suggestion that these gangs operate in this sophisticated manner has been considered propaganda from law enforcement and designed to stigmatize the gang and its members by exaggerating the extent to which the gang operates. Phrases like “ violent foreign-born gang members ” and “ their behavior is often deadly ” uses the fear card to gain public support for what ever law enforcement action is desired against the group. For years the FBI has been telling us that there exists parallels between 18th Street and international crime but many of those linkages have been overstated and just because the federal government says that 18th Street possesses weapons of mass destruction does not necessarily mean that it is true. United States Senator Dianne Feinstein published a report in 2003 which erroneously stated that 80 percent of the 18th Street gang membership in California consists of illegal immigrants but according to Los Angeles County Sheriff’s department only about 10 percent of the gang membership in Los Angeles County are illegal citizens.
The Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office has three gang injunctions against the 18th Street; two in the Rampart Division and one in the Southwest Division of the LAPD against the same faction that Catorino Gonzales and Pedro Espinoza were from. This specific 18th Street gang has several clicks including Alcase, Lil Lowks, and Smiley Drive.
The Rampart injunctions were under review and temporarily halted in September of 1999 because of the Rampart corruption scandal that implicated several LAPD officers in criminal activity. In 2002 these injunctions were refiled by the City Attorney’s Office and placed back into effect.
Graffiti of the 18th Street gang from off the area of Hoover and 74th Street of South Los Angeles.
Certain factions of 18th Street in South Los Angeles are feuding with Black gangs, specifically the Bloods. In 1994, members of the Rancho Park click that were hanging out on Gibraltar Avenue in the Jungles got into a conflict with members of the Black P Stones in the Jungles. The actual source of this conflict remains in question, but an argument ensued, and an 18th Street member was murdered, thus starting the cycle of violence between the Bloods and the 18th Street. The Black Stones from the City joined the conflict, then in 1996 the Rollin’ 20s Bloods got involved. More recently the Fruit Town Brims , the 4th Blood gang joined the conflict against the 18th Street. This conflict followed the war between the Venice Shoreline Crips, a predominately black gang and the Hispanic Venice 13, that saw 17 murders in 9 months from 1993-94. Eventually, Venice 13 had the support of three other Hispanic gangs; Culver City Boys, Sotel, and Santa Monica 13, but that war was over by 1996.
18th street is overated, splinterred all over LA and under the control of the Mexican Mafia. They don’t realize that fighting bloods or any black hood is bad for business, but that let’s u know how senseless they are.
Punk blank chickes is all they are.
f you and your gang. Go back to Mexico you fing greaser.
And f you and whatever you represent. chick!!
How is that beef with F13 going for y’all ..unheard they firing y’all ish up all up and down irolo 8th st Wilshire hoover and by the park ..ha catching the blues
Hey check this ish out…you weird blank motherfer you putting all of that ___ blank ish on here is fing smart..I don’t curse much but that’s how you know you fing piss me off! If you have something to say.Then actually use correct grammer and explain what is it you are trying to say! chick.I have a very legit connect that can track your fing IP..internet protocol and trace it back to your cheap blank metro phone that the police gave you for being a fing informant so you can keep in contact with crash if some ish go down where your chick buttf mom lives..Shut your fing mouth and keep your dumbblank antics and rhetorical statements to yourfing self.you homosexual drug addict piece of ish.
In 2005 Mexican Mafia green lighted all 18th Street gangs in Southern California for deciding not to submit under the Sur umbrella anymore. Today all 18th Street gangs are in protective custody, but only a few are in general population and claiming Sur. BTW, 18th Street gang members got sick and tired, fed up and frustrated of being green lighted for no reason just like Maravilla.
you sound smart blank f we aint pcs homie we south siders as well u fin idiot eighteen on mines we surenos f boy f boy
Lil G is a .P Ocho?
I thought he was from MS13.
DONT EVEN GO WITH THE FLOW BEST13….BEST SPELLS OUT ***Barrio Eighteen StreeT NOW THAT IS SUMN RO BE PROUD ABOUT THAT E-LIFE
WS EIGHTEEN ST. 54TLS MR.GRUMPY FROM BACK N DAY!
Can’t believe you Lost Angels are still a buncha wimpy blank ishty gangsters
Still running your ___ blank mouths over your worthless city.
Move out or get real fing jobs when you still can.
You can scribble all the ___ ish you want but the $ money $
is always going to win out chickes
You vatos tried to get panorama city but you ran out of troops lol
WS LOS DRIFTERS 13 JKS GANG RIFA
EVERYBODY k.
STEP UP AND GET UR WIG SPLIT MOTHER fERS.
f ALL FAKETEENS OR .POCHASK WHAT EVER THEY LIKE
HOOVER N PICO IS OURS. U chickES LAST IT A LONG TIME AGO
WS LOS DRIFTERS 13 Y KE
TELL UR HOMIE BULLET WE SAID WHAT’S UP. LOL
GONE N FORGOTTEN LET’S GET THE NEXT ONE
Dumbfs from 12st bagos are chickes they hide. They only come out in the morning so they won’t get gun down. We be patrolling your hood and hitting up 18st and you don’t come out and play. Tell William what happen to him a while ago with the Ak’s he didn’t even claim your varrio straight snitch all you dumbblankks out lol and to that foo in the wheel chair we have something for him.
Frist of all, if you think we gonna be your friend ,so you could exspand yo hood on are backs, then you got us fed -up fool,yall just madd , cause yall sister &daughters are leaving home with these young black men, and yall so call fathers cant f these , girls before they get married to there usbands,and that comes straight from a latina chick,( the cats out the bag!)
Pffft…. what the f????? Stop getting your facts from crackheaded blank chickes!!!
WS MaRa SaLvATrUcHa 13 GANG f ALL FAKE TEENS .POCHEROS f ALL UR HOMIES FROM THAT CLS I PATROL THEIR HOOD BUT THEY BEEN HIDING IN THAT BABY WINOS ALLEY ONE OF THEY OLD CLICK OF 18……………..STILL POSTED ON WESTLAKE.
f el morro sekaK
fing paisa blank panocha power.
AHA WblankAP U .P LIL BUSTAS DIS BE DAT BIG MARA GANG k-ingG ALL U FOOLS fING CHAVALAS .POCHAk, CRSk, lollipopWOODk, TAMPAXk, DRIFTERk ETC…… LA MARA CONTROLA PUTOS Y ANDA SUELTA \,,/ EVERYBODY k
u talking bout Westlake Mcauther fo those guys aight ish f Parkview
BIG FOR NOTHING HOOD I dont like YOU LAMES
chick maywood locos smashing yall blank.
f you chick blank hard tacos rancheres simon i whent throw your fing barrio mr lil_one ws uno ocho they call us malditos
f ALL U puppy dog.
HIDING IN TREES.
ALL U NIE ARE LOOSING UR HOODS WE TAKING OVER STREET BY STREET.
WHAT EVER IT TAKES
CRABS OR SLOBS ALL THE SAME K!!!
f FAKETEENS MESSICANS SURRATS AND LATINOS BLOOD THEY k LIL BOYS AND GIRLS CAUSE DEY BLACK? I GOT NO RESPECT FO DAT WE DONT GO ON AN k ALL MEXICANS CAUSE WE WAS HOLDIN DOWN COMPTON FIRST SO f BLOOD DESE MESSICANS NEED TO STOP SHOOTIN LIL GIRLS AND BOYS U KNO WHERE DAQ HOOD guyS AT COME GET ME MS13K SUR13K MMK NFK N14K C14K SLK V53K CVK WVK fK ALL VARRIOS
f .POCHO
guy LOVER.
DR1FT3RS GANG Y KE!!!
18 street dont have to have anything against blacks or bloods. Were under the power of the mexican mafia but, we all shouldnt have fear. Its our gang, we didnt wait til no mafia to tell us that we were official and go start k-ing blacks. If it were up to me, a true 18 streeter, then i’d have an alliance with a few black gangs. Its good for business, u gain more territory, and more members. Think about it.
Can you tell us if Indio the veteran from 18 is still around gombe would be old now
Blood gang guy f faketeenz
WS ROLLIN 20’S NHB C18K
f ALL YOU LAMES STRAIGHT SMACHIN
ALL FAKETEENS
f piss stainsK And all your dead homegirls.
Bk all day them 30’s be on your hood all day TF?
f tweenkysK slobK all on mine.
you slobs aint smashing on anybody, you need more slobs to join in to take us out. even the dirus want some but they cant fade us.
U WISH puppy dog FEVER
DOWN WITH THE puppy dog
GO BACK TO AFRICA AND CHASE BUFFALOS
18st is the oldest gang in the latino commuity and should set an example for all latino gangs,and stop this war on blacks, because we have kids by most of your sister.and k-ingg us anit gonna change that, we just gonna make more babbys with your sister’s.
If you just want to be kool for the bussiness side of it then f you too, and just to build up your hood domain, you got black peolpe f up ,I almost said somethnig good about you til, red on a little more.
LOOK ESE f ALL THE BLACK GANGS THEY AINT ABOUT stuff I STAY IN THAT 818 VALLEY I GOT HOMIES FROM NS MS 13 AND NS 18ST BUT THIZ VATOS FROM 18ST BEEN ACTING BLACK THEY BEEN USING THE WORD NI666A AND IF THEY ARE SURENOS WHY THAT f THEY B SAYING stuff ANOTHER THANG ESE LOTS OF CLICKS FROM 18 THEY BEEN SAYING f SCRAPS f SUR13 what ESE LIKE THIZ chick blank .PCHEROS TALK 2 MUCH ……PURO VARRIO blankblankINS KINGS LOCOTES 13 GANG WOODMAN ST 818 VALLEROS GET THAT stuff STR8……..f BLACKS SOME PUTOS ARE FIRME BUT MOST OF THEM AINT BOUT NADA.,,
LOOK ESE f ALL THE BLACK GANGS THEY AINT ABOUT stuff I STAY IN THAT 818 VALLEY I GOT HOMIES FROM NS MS 13 AND NS 18ST BUT THIZ VATOS FROM 18ST BEEN ACTING BLACK THEY BEEN USING THE WORD NI666A AND IF THEY ARE SURENOS WHY THAT f THEY B SAYING stuff ANOTHER THANG ESE LOTS OF CLICKS FROM 18 THEY BEEN SAYING f SCRAPS f SUR13 what ESE LIKE THIZ chick blank .PCHEROS TALK 2 MUCH ……PURO VARRIO blankblankINS KINGS LOCOTES 13 GANG WOODMAN ST 818 VALLEROS GET THAT stuff STR8……..f BLACKS SOME PUTOS ARE FIRME BUT MOST OF THEM AINT BOUT NADA.,…..AK GANG
WEST UP IM ESE MR STOMPER FROM THAT BIG WEST SIDE MS13 GANG ESE f ALL MY ENEMIGAS KEEP RUNNING UR MOUTH IT DOESNT MAKE US WEAK IT MAKE US STRONGER SERIO PINCHE .P CHEROS CAGA PALOS ,,,,,,what U LEVAS DO BEEF IT WIT BLOODS SLOBS what DONT TALK IF U DONT KNOW ALL U PUTOS ARE PERDIDOS DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE UR VARRIO IS AND THATS TRU3 U HYNAS BEEN HIDING ON THE BABY WINOS ALLEY SERIO MY HOMIE IS NOT LYING I BEEN AROUND THERE ANDU FOOLS BEEN POSTED THERE COME OUT ………..OR DONT TALK WAS THE POINT OF BANGING IF U GONNA B HIDING LIKE Poo buhts WEST WEST WITH THAT ESE….BE REAL JUST WAIT SO I CAN CACH U FOOLS ON THE CALLES..WELL THAT IS ALL I GOTTA SAID ESE….IM NOT GONNA TALK MORE CUZ REAL G´S DONT TALK MS 13 WORLD WIDE EL SALVADOR MEXICO,HONDURAS,GUATEMALA,NICARAGUA,ALASKA,CANADA, USA,SPAIN,AUSTRALIA, ANYWHERE EVRYWHERE ESE………..WE DONW FRO DAT BIG SUR 13 MARA SALVATRUCHA X3 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA M´S UP .PCHEROS DOWN k
f YOU PUTO AJ QUI ESTAMOS EN LA BKONNIE BKRAE Y MIS CHAPINES CAMINANDO LA 12 Putos ARIVA EL SALVADOR Y GUATEMALA PEROO LAJ MARA MEJ LAJ DOBKLA
CHARATERS AND ACTORS ITS FUNNY INTELL THAT VERY MOMENT
f outta here el morro Aqui Para Y Rifa La Bigg Bkarrio liveSIOCHO. A La Verga Todas Las Chavalas La 18 Con La Bala!!!
Mr.lonley puro SC.XV3 ST LGS f ms putos puppy dog ish all of you putos ain’t ish talk i be in Santa Monica Vermont and f lemons
f FAXTXXN & YALL DXAD ONES. LA MARA CONTROLA. WS.MARA SALVATRUCHKA.13 NORMANlive LOKOS CLICKA M’S UP FAKXS DOWN \,,,/
everybody on this page is a fin lame
f ur life and i hope all ur mamas have heart attacks
how u like me now
You must dont have a mother anymore, so youcan say that bevause your on this site too, and you just might back fire your comment!
hey putito simon por la computadora you can say and type all the shiet you want pero come face to face and them show me and ask me how i like you now but so this just wont go with out a respuesta f you and all your dead homies puro big barrio calle livecieocho gang they call me mr lil_one ws liveciocho malditos f all haters uno ocho cantrola
That’s right WESTSIDE 18 street Malditos ! LA MARA MEJ ASEJ LOS MANDADOS ! Soy del Salvador y chapin Perot la Mara savej que ni laj he the los quieted los matan y she Aden de laj 18 Africa todos mi chapines que caminan pot la 12 Y gracias ain’t laj militar del estafos unifies pot el training BIG WESTSIDE 18street GANG LA MARS MEJ LA PELA REAL EBK MALDITO
dawg your a poser your not from 60s or LA sayin that bullish
Dude you dont leave out here ,so dont pump ish up with those cats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me start by saying I dont like you cuzzzzz————im from madden street, were you from punk blank, im big ace rats son cuzzzzz you guys know my pops , he punk yall guys for years, yall no i been punking my guys fo years and real 60s cant be punked ,that why my dad calls shots.
It’s funny how all this latino women are seeking black men, and no black woman want a mexican man in there bed,, little d#$k mutha fas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
are you serious? most Mexican girls i know hate guys and i hate guy girls. i had black chickes before.. they nasty hoes. and ghetto trash. f fing a puppy dog guy.
Hey 18st go down town you clown , and bring yo sister to me , so I could put this bigggg black snake in her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t care whose son you are, you think your big and bad just because you mentioned your so called Daddys name, Big Ace Rat,LMAO guy get of the computer and quot playin games
f you cuzzzzzz you anit got no juice so shut up buster azzzzzzz old guy…………………
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