857 posts, read 3,339,075 times 3,883 posts, read 16,631,599 times 9,630 posts, read 36,858,219 times As BS said, surely there is someone local who can build doors and fronts to your specifications. In instances like yours, and other projects I have done I have a local company that I use for doors and fronts- Naked Kitchen Cabinet Doors starting @ $9.95, Unfinished Kitchen Cabinet Doors I use the MDF doors. I get them primed with the melamine back. Granted they are a paint grade door but that's the overwhelming majority of the work I have done. 10,425 posts, read 39,381,632 times Originally Posted by jenlion You been complaining about those peeling doors for 3 years now. They must be getting on your nerves by now. It is true as you were told that today's generation of thermofoil rarely peels. The peeling is largely related to poor inferior glues. The thermofoil is basically the same as always. Thermofoil is really nothing more then aluminum foil like you wrap your food with.
Just colored, textured and thickened. I acknowledge that a total replacement is a dirty messy routeen altering undertaking and perhaps door replacement is a good temporary fix till the kids get older. But is several thousand dollars a wise "temporary" fix? How about replacing your ugly blue worn out tops for another couple thousand? You are almost at the cost of a new kitchen makeover. Consider the less costly alternative there is. Go with new doors with MDF material. Find one of those companies who refinish old laminate tops. They mainly work with the apartment and hotel industry. It's like a paint finish that make your existing tops look new. Getting rid of the old doors and sealing in the old cabinet boxes with new paint will also seal in the formaldehyde that is aggravating your asthma. As for door replacement. Most all cabinet door manufacturers do not work with the public. Those who do charge full retail price. Yes you can google cabinet doors and your PC screen will light up the night sky but look deeper and you will find confusion and high prices.
There will also be many protection clauses for online ordering so that the consumer can't get a refund on mistakes. Ideally if you can find a local company who makes them you can go in person. And since you live in a large city you may be in luck. You learned what I been preaching. Refacing is always more expensive then replacing. There are ways around that fact though if one were kinda handy. I'll leave that for another conversation. So to summarize, buying raw MDF door blanks (make sure you pay the extra dollar per hole to have the hinge holes bored) and paint them yourself is the cheapest quick fix. Another tip is to order the hinges from the company you buy the doors from. I have learned over the years that the "pre-drill" option is not always to a standard size screw pattern. The actual hole is which should be 32MM which I think is 1 3/16". The patten they drill might not match the hole pattern with whatever hinges you can buy locally. It is also imperative you order the better hinge that have adjustability.
Ordering hinges from the door company might cost a dollar and a quarter each but buying these same hinges from the big orange will cost $5 each. Yes that's a fact. Don't forget, ordering online doors may sound like a bargain but by the time you pay $300 to 400 for shipping, I'd think twice. 16,364 posts, read 21,851,834 times Just a thought if you don't mind "de-foiling" the doors, try the Rust-O-Leum Cabinet Transformations method. The kit costs around $75 and comes in a couple dozen different finishes. It's certainly more cost effective than replacing just the fronts and gives the whole cabinet a new look. I did my kitchen in the Bayleaf stain and redid the counters in granite. Everyone who has seen it has loved it. 1,379 posts, read 2,146,819 times Originally Posted by kadylady Not only are they ugly and cheap, but they do not have door sizes to industry standards and they do not make custom sizes. Originally Posted by desertsun41 The OP was looking for doors to match her cabinets.
I don't know the size of her cabinets, do you? 14,936 posts, read 22,846,313 times Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.Cleaning Kitchen Cabinets WoodSanding CabinetsKitchen Cabinets RemodelPainted Oak Kitchen CabinetsClean CabinetsUpdate Kitchen CabinetsPainting Oak CabinetsCabinet PaintingLaminated Kitchen CabinetsForwardPainting Cabinets: Instead Of Sanding, Clean Cabinets With TSP (Polyurethane Is The Key To Keep Paint From Peeling/Chipping) Sun Mountain Doors provides the most cutting edge door design options, edge profiles and finishes to choose from. With our state-of-art technology, we manufacture thermofoil doors for all facets of the industry with a lead time that beats the competition. From classic and traditional doors to minimal and contemporary doors, our vast options and styles will give your customers the choices they are looking for.
Our doors complete your project from residential kitchens and baths to corporate offices and hotels. Sun Mountain Doors is your door destination. I have a client that has a kitchen with all rtf doors. Every door is delaminating. The foil is simply lifting off. The kitchen is 10 years old. What would cause this? They want me to remove the foil and paint the MDF. This is a first for me. Is what's causing this going to effect the new paint job as well? The job is located in Irvine CA. We have seen this happen with upper doors above ovens, coffee makers and toasters, but not an entire kitchen. I would be concerned about painting over existing doors as there could be residue from the foil still on the doors. Is the foil so loose that the cost of labor to remove the foil would be less than ordering new MDF doors? The foil easily lifts off. Doesn't seem stuck much at all anymore. I used lacquer thinner to remove the glue on one door and it seemed to work decent. I will sand them after I clean the glue off.
The layer on the back of the doors seems very stable, so I will only be doing the fronts and edges. You can get new MDF doors very cheap. Look into that first as it may be more economical than the labour to strip the current doors. There are a couple of possibilities here. This could have been a weak glue bond, and the heat is not helping. But I think it's related to the glue itself. I have heard about some manufacturers changing their glue formula and not letting their customers now. They pressed the doors using the new formula and it is causing problems down the line years after the product was delivered. I would be hesitant to paint these doors. Usually the glue will soak into the MDF and make it difficult for the paint to get a great bond. If might be a good idea to test a piece and see what happens and how good of a bond you get. It would be better to order new doors and then just paint the raw ones to guarantee a good, clean surface for paint. I have to think new MDF doors are cheap insurance against the possibility of the paint not sticking well to the old doors.
For the cost I can't see any advantage in gambling on such a project.You will regret it. Just price it to trash and replace. Been there, done that. Do yourself a favor and listen to everyone. Even if you did get the paint to stick, you would end up with an unbalanced panel and your next phone call would be to come back to fixed warped doors. Ditto on the unbalanced panels! Let client know it will be cheaper for them in the long run to go with new MDF doors. They (or you) can do this once... or do it twice. The best thing to do is just replace the MDF doors with new. Nothing wrong with being economical, but this would go bad. The few bucks saved would not be enough to take care of the problems later. I took the foil of some doors, sanded and painted them. Didn't have a problem, and don't know why you would. Use a heat gun so the foil that is stuck doesn't pull the MDF off. Would you like to add information to this article?Interested in writing or submitting an article?
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