SOME SOURCES ON MY REDDIT COMMENT ABOUT KEMEROVO

SOME SOURCES ON MY REDDIT COMMENT ABOUT KEMEROVO

Max Stern
THERE IS NO OFFICIAL INFORMATION ABOUT 300 DEATHS! Again I say this. No mass media says that there are more than ~70 deaths! Yes, people are right, I CAN NOT BRING AN OFFICIAL PROOF THAT VICTIMS COUNT IS WAY BIGGER THAN 64. That's also not the initial goal for me to tell that government just lie to people about victims. I wrote all of this because many people in Russia (and people in Kemerovo in particular) do not believe official information because of amount of sold tickets (links below), signing DNAs by parents (links below), some interviews (links below). Yes, this is speculation but I just give an alternative point of view.
This information comes from people in Russia, people in Kemerovo think like that, probably everyone who did research may think like that because Google cache has amount of sold tickets (two links below), it's not accurate (probably there were more tickets because Google didn't cache it just like before movie start).
It's not just my assumptions. And it's really bad that government has that reputation when citizens don't believe official reports. I mean, if you want to see information only from news networks, then don't believe this part about deaths count. Although I linked an interview with a man who lost his entire family, he says that count of deaths is way bigger than officials say.
Again, please, read this carefully if you are really interested, use Google Translate to translate from Russian to English, it translates it pretty well.

Official stats remain the same: 64 died, inc. 41 children

[!] NEWS NETWORKS SAY THAT INFORMATION ABOUT ~300 DEATHS WAS FAKED** BY UKRAINIAN «PRANKER» Eugene Volnov. Russia also put him to international wanted list. He is also known for his political views against Russia. http://www.interfax.ru/russia/605803

Ambulance doctor, who told about 300 deaths in front of the crowd now says that he got this info from the internet. https://youtu.be/qEyGC844idA

One of the arrested (director of organization that was serving alarm system) said that cinema doors were locked because cinema staff wanted to not to let go to the hall without tickets. Source: live stream, link below.

Shopping mall CEO and 3 other people arrested, live stream there https://youtu.be/GKGpumOTL4Q
Shopping mall also was not insured.

Man talks about his daughter. Says that he was talking with her on mobile phone, came to shopping mall in 5 mins. When he went up to the 4th floor, he saw rescuers, he was shouting «where is my daughter», she was still on phone, he tried to get closer to locked halls but rescuers dragged him. Daughter said «dad I love you, I lose consciousness».

UPDATE: Mar 27: MAN IN FRONT OF THE PROTEST CROWD IN KEMEROVO SAYS THAT MORE THAN 300 PEOPLE DIED, 70% ARE CHILDREN, NO FREE SPACE IN ALL KEMEROVO MORGUES. PEOPLE ASK HIM «WHO YOU ARE», MAN TELLS HIS SURNAME AND ANSWERS «I'M AN AMBULANCE DOCTOR». LINK: https://youtu.be/XZ2-SCEsJC4

UPDATE: SINCE MARCH 19 FIRE ALARM WASN'T WORKING IN THE SHOPPING MALL. Emergency button was working but shopping mall worker DIDN'T PRESS IT. Many doors on the 4th floor were LOCKED. Source: http://www.mk.ru/politics/2018/03/27/pozhar-v-kemerovo-dikie-detali-ozvuchili-na-soveshhanii-s-putinym.html

Сached pages of cinema website, tickets are there, that's what you see on screenshots:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xaDoJk8-cIgJ:kemkino.ru/seances/7571/+&cd=1&hl=ru&ct=clnk&gl=ru&lr=lang_en%7Clang_ru

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:17XYR1SMCjUJ:kemkino.ru/seances/7434/+&cd=1&hl=ru&ct=clnk&gl=ru&lr=lang_en%7Clang_ru

I can't find 3rd page now, Google is showing wrong link


https://www.rt.com/on-air/422420-kemerovo-mall-fire-protest/ -- protest in Kemerovo

https://www.rt.com/news/422379-russia-mall-fire-investigation/ -- Emergency exits blocked & alarm system turned off, investigators find

https://www.rt.com/news/422417-putin-kemerovo-mall-fire/ -- Putin slams ‘criminal negligence’ that led to deadly Kemerovo inferno as he visits the Siberian city

https://www.rt.com/news/422392-kemerovo-boy-window-survived/ -- 11yo boy survived by jumping out of window of burning mall. His entire family did not

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201803261331-22k9.htm -- emergency exits blocked

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43543105  -- Locked doors

https://www.rbc.ru/society/26/03/2018/5ab8a9089a794726b2f4ea93 -- one more about doors

https://360tv.ru/news/chp/zakrili-i-ushi/ -- Russian news site about locked doors (translate this from article: «По словам местного жителя, вахтерши закрыли двери в кинозалы и ушли, поэтому дети не смогли выбраться из огненной ловушки»). 

Non-government news networks also don't hide that doors were blocked, for the rest I said where I get this information — Telegram channels, WhatsApp groups, it's coming from Kemerovo citizens, I can't provide a proof for their words, take it as an alternative point of view

https://vk.com/video407165202_456239119 -- video with man who lost his family. He talks about ~350 victims, slow work of rescuers, blocked doors, fire alarm. Obviously you have to translate. 

https://twitter.com/EchoMskRu/status/978249704961167361 -- about NDA

https://www.rbc.ru/society/26/03/2018/5ab91c0e9a7947787f98a6ba -- about NDA

For example, this Telegram channels also covers the situation and other incidents in Russia https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEJZLe-Zh3MNVC418g 

Part about teacher: https://www.kp.ru/daily/26810.5/3846405/ 

Non-existent fire alarm: https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5ab7ad249a7947b0c3451055

SOURCES SAY THAT CHIEF OF FIRE SAFETY in the shopping mall is a chef by education and he never worked with complex devices before:
https://riasv.ru/news_id/125173/
https://dni.ru/regions/2018/3/26/394266.html

«Задержанный по уголовному делу о пожаре в "Зимней вишне" Александр Никитин отвечал за систему пожарной безопасности и сигнализацию в ТЦ. У работника нет профильного образования, и он никогда не работал с подобного рода техникой» — «The detainee in the criminal case of a fire in the "Winter Cherry" Alexander Nikitin was in charge of the fire safety and alarm system in the shopping center. The employee does not have a formal education, and he has never worked with this kind of equipment» (Google Translate).

Of course there are many and many more sources, it's hard to link everything there because if you just type «kemerovo fire» you will be able to find a lot of information. But as always, there is an official info and there is an unofficial statements. You should know that we live in the world where you can't just trust everybody (yes, including me, I understand) but it also means that mass media can lie to you. I believe that russian mass media don't provide the whole amount of info, they hide details and, most importantly, amount of deaths. Yes, I didn't see this tragedy with my eyes but I read many sources from Kemerovo citizens. It's up to you to decide what is truth and what is not but this information from my side is unmodified, I translate what I know and what I read to bring «unofficial» picture of tragedy to people.

WHAT WASN'T SHOWN ON NATIONAL TV

https://vk.com/video-119333353_456239628 -- beginning of the catastrophe

https://vk.com/video-119333353_456239492 -- people trying to escape from fire by jumping out of windows

https://vk.com/video-119333353_456239496 -- child jumping (he is in coma now)

https://vk.com/video-119333353_456239532 -- people blocked inside shopping mall, fire is near

https://vk.com/video-119333353_456239573 -- panic inside shopping mall

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