Lucy
ChatlogsJames the NiFe - 11/20/2017
I need to propose a type theory for someone
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Who?
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
A guy whose name starts with L
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Me?
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Yup
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Go ahead.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
It's 2 things
First
The tritype, there's something that could explain your indecision between core 3 and 8
Let's cover that first
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
I'm listening.
(although I don't really hesitate)
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Well
I don't think you're core 3 or 8
And I think your tritype is 368
Sexual/Social
The counterphobic stance of the sexual Six can be seen in competition for attracting the right mate, and in testing to see who is worthy of trust. This is true of both sexual subtypes and especially true of the sexual/social. This type is likely to be found quite commonly among actresses and actors as they tend towards a dramatic presentation. Their need to be identified with their desirability and their strong social instinct, combine to sometimes make them public figures. They are less possessive of their mates, but still feel the need to have control in the relationship. They can have a very focused intensity. They can appear Four-like in their desire to express themselves and give into their passions. They define themselves in accordance with the prevailing gender norms opting to appear masculine or feminine as the case may be. This outward energy is sometimes counterbalanced with inward doubting, which can lead to depression, anger, and acting out, at the lower levels of health.
Anxiety isn’t as noticeable with the sexual variant of type Six, especially when the self-pres instinct is last. The typical things we associate with anxiety aren’t obvious with this subtype. Their anxiety is focused in the arena of relationships, and since their stance is mostly counterphobic, anxiety is not always obvious, and the Six too might be unaware of its presence. This can be true of all the subtypes of type Six. Their anxiety exists at a core level so that Sixes don’t always know how to gauge its existence. So, even the more visibly anxious subtypes might not be aware of their underlying anxiety. The sexual/social can appear Eight-like, in their defense of their loved ones and social standing.
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
I'm not gonna have a judgement till you finish your point.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
https://youtu.be/DETpsNo8p9w
YouTube
Laura Hyde
ENNEAGRAM TRITYPE DVD 3 368
I think you're core 6
638
The counterphobic 6 can appear 8ish but fits an introvert type so much better
I could also see a case for Ti Dom but that's a separate issue
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
ISTP ?
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Yes
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
You should have started by this one.
Explain.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
The whole argument about the art channel you made was Ti AF
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
That's it ?
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
I can't see Te bothered that much with the
No
That's not it
There's a lot
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
I'm listening.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Remember when Franco joined and he immediately started getting lectured by Nadira?
That's because she's his supervisor
She has never ever tried to nag you that way
You seem more like her dual
Than her supervisee
Also
Your emo phase and the 6
Would be very fitting with inferior Fe grip
Also it makes NFPs your conflicting types
And let's face it
You can't stand NFPs
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
?
ENFPs are my top 2 favorite types.
I dislike INFPs because I hate feminists.
And they are the type most prone to be that/sjws/ect.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Yes
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
That's it.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
They are
But
Forget that part
We should look into the grip of Fe
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
All the parts are pretty meh tbh.
First the part with the channels.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
I'm looking at a big picture here
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
The real reason why I got so obsessed with it, was the same reason why I fought against raven having his bright green color back then.
When someone do me wrong, I am vengeful.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
The real reason was crepe
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
I couldn't let Crepe have that going for her.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
I know
I was very aware of that
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Beside that I don't give a shit.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Lucy
I know that
I wasn't going to say it in publid
Public
But I knew that
That's not the point
The thing is that most of your arguments are Ti
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Second point, Nadira being my dual. She was acting like my supervisor for a whole month before she got to know me.
How ?
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Not the same as with Franco
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Explain how my arguments are Ti.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
She was acting like that because she was offended by something you told her
Not because she was supervising you
Hold on
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
You think I didn't consider ISTP before ?
But that's a nope, I'd believe ISFP even more than ISTP. Even if it's still retarded.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Since they pay scant attention to outer reality, this type is the proverbial “absent-minded professor,” the “forgetful Jones.” This can be quite charming, but less so the more they become single-mindedly attached to their own ideas or inner images. Then their convictions become rigid and unbending, their judgment cold, inflexible, arbitrary. In the extreme case, they may lose all connection with objective reality and so become isolated from friends, family and colleagues.
The converse way in which inferior extraverted feeling typically manifests is that others feel devalued and “unseen.“Von Franz (a self-confessed introverted thinking type) says that inferior extraverted feeling manifests as a kind of “sticky attachment”:
In the grip of inferior Extraverted Feeling, Introverted Thinking types have difficulty functioning at their typical level of cognitive acuity, are hypersensitive to relationship issues, and can be touchy and emotional. Equilibrium is often reestablished via their auxiliary Sensing or Intuition. ISTPs acknowledge one or more important realities bearing on their situation; INTPs find a new idea or perspective that interrupts and modifies their exaggerated sensitivity or emotionalism.
I had considered ISTP for you before too
But the theory only solidified recently
Show me your Fi
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
How in the hell am I auxiliary Se ?
My Fi is in every single of my arguments. Show me my Fe.
As inferior as it is.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
OK
Hold on
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Fe
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Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
xd
Wow I showed some kind of basic empathy once in my life, so Fe.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
I've got plenty
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Show me.
"you wanna protect housewives" Fi and 8.
Next ?
And I'm waiting for the auxiliary Se argument.
How is someone that lives so much in the future that he actually ignores the present to an almost unhealthy point could be auxiliary Se ?(edited)
Btw your 368 theory is crap.
Don't relate to shit in that video.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
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Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
358 was literally a description about me.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Did you read the 6 description?
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Yes, didn't specially relate.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
OK, the video may have been ogg
Off
But the 6 sx/so description isn't
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Give me the 5 sx/so description.
I relate to the 6 one for 40% max.
Lol the screenshots. I really have to do this don't I ?
I mean I can't really discuss your points if I keep on the mask.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Do what?
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Here is the truth James, and I'd understand if you hate me for it : I never, genuinely cared, about ANYONE, on this server. Not even you. But I figured that if I don't show a fake empathy at times, you would never trust me.
You wanna see the truth about how I "genuinely cared" about Raven ?
--
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
I got along with Dubs even more than with you when I was talking to you 20 times as much.
I can never see myself having a problem with an ENFP.
It's almost surreal how nothing they do goes against me.
The only reason I hate INFPs, are because I despise feminism and post culturalism, that's it.
Other than that we get along pretty well honestly.
I've been with my ex for 2 fucking years.
Do you imagine me being with an ESFJ for 2 fucking years ?
James ?
And you're saying I'm the same type as Velcorn ? Just watch when we debated last time about feminism.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Yes
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
He was writing long ass paragraphs, and I tried to be the most concise possible.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
He has a total different tritype though
Yes
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Doesnt matter.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
You were
Hold on
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
I can't be Ti dom and be so uncomfortable using the function.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
I'm trying to find something
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
That doesn't make any sense.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Hold on
GDI
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
You typed me yourself using the reinin dichotomies.(edited)
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
I don't fucking type with dichotomies
Oh
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
You typed me as gamma.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Reinin
Yeah
I did
OK
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Plus your questions
"Lucy, who are you ?"
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Just give me a sec
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
What did I answer ?
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Yes
I kind
I know
Ffs autocorrect
Gvctvbj
Hold on
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
And now you're calling me 368
The fucking SJW tritype lmao
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
OK
Hold on
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Ni and Solution Master were my life since I was a child.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Hold on
Hold on GDI
Judge this
A type with Ne PoLR has a difficult time understanding ideas that seem new or novel, especially when it has no tangible effect on their lives. Leaving little to chance, they are able to plan out their lives for years ahead of time. This results in difficulties handling unexpected problems in their lives that put a halt on their usual pursuits, and they tend to fear all the possible "what-if's" when those problems prevent them from seeing a clear future. When unsure about something, these types can either avoid making any changes at all or making too quick and reckless of a decision, either of which resulting in missed opportunities.
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
"A type with Ne PoLR"
So they're implying they are more than 1 type ?(edited)
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
No
A type with Ne PoLR are both isfp and ISTP
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Okay send me Fe PoLR description.
The Ne PoLR one sounds just like Ni dom to me.
I bet yourself can relate to it to some extent.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
A type with Fe PoLR does not see the point of activities revolving around excessive displays of emotion or behavior that does not reach a concrete or tangible outcome. They would rather keep conversations serious and to the point, for he/she is overwhelmed by such emotional expression, making it quite difficult to express themselves. In social interactions they will make a serious effort to reduce their level of emotive expressiveness such as being too joyful or sad, believing that showing these signs will make them vulnerable to be influenced by others. They don't hold quite a high standard for how people as a group feel about something (even if outnumbered by many when making a personal decision), and instead value situations where they can speak their own subjective opinions and feelings freely.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Let's try something
Hold on Lucy
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Read it and tell me that's not me.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
It's hard to argue it's not
As I said
ISTP was just a theory
Let's try something though
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
And I had that theory for months
That's why I'm so adamant about it being wrong.
Because I really did dig into it.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
OK
Put that aside for a moment
I'm still sure about the 6 regardless of the ISTP theory
Let's consider something
Since CP 6 mimics 8
Strictly speaking
You no longer need 8
Try this
https://youtu.be/6MgnlSxS-Yc
YouTube
Laura Hyde
TRITYPE DVD 2 136
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Why does it have the 135 image ?
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Idk
135 is technical expert
Task master is still 136
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Yeah I was already mistyped 135 for decades, let's not get back to that type.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
It just says 136
135
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Let me watch 136.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
But the name is right
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
The fuck xD
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Lol
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
"They even do stuff that isn't meaningful to them just to keep themselves busy"
???????
kek
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
What?
Sounds absurd?
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
Utterly absurd
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Lol
I'll be back in an hour or so
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
If the stuff I do doesnt correlate with my final existential goal, I wouldn't waste 1 second on it.
James the NiFe - 11/20/2017
Don't go anywhere
Brb
Lūcifer - 11/20/2017
I'll have to sleep soon but we'll see
Try to think about another theory that could explain the 6 for you meanwhile
Because I'm 99% sure of 358 at this point
It's textbook me on literally every single point