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AN incest brother fathered a child with his own vulnerable sister after coercing her into having sex repeatedly, a court heard.
The brother, then 24, had sex with his sibling, then 16, on repeated occasions - sometimes at a house he was sharing with his girlfriend.
His sister later gave birth to a daughter who was diagnosed with a physical disability which left her unable to walk.
In a statement to police the sister, now 40, said she only went to her brother's home because she was being bullied at school.
She said: ''I didn’t want this to happen but he was the closest person I could go to.
"He was my brother. I loved him. Now I’m isolated and I don’t have any family. It sticks in your brain forever. This has ruined my life.''
He was my brother. I loved him. Now I’m isolated and I don’t have any family. It sticks in your brain forever. This has ruined my life.
At Manchester Crown Court, the brother, now 47, from Bury and who cannot be named for legal reasons, admitted incest and was jailed for 32 months.
The court heard the illicit encounters between the siblings began in the 1990s after their dad died.
Just hours after the funeral the brother watched porn at their family home in South Manchester then had sex with his sister saying: ''It's ok no-one will know.''
Prosecutor Mr Alaric Bassano said: "The next morning, the complainant felt awkward but nothing was said between the two of them. Shortly after he moved out to his own home where he lived with his girlfriend but further acts of incest took place.
"One morning, she went to see him when she should have been at school.
"She remembers being in her green school uniform and the defendant’s girlfriend was in bed. Sexual intercourse took place between them before the defendant’s girlfriend walked down the stairs and they had to act as if nothing had happened."
Mr Bassano said this sort of sexual activity took place regularly and the sister would skip school to go to her brother's flat.
"Once or twice, if there were people at the defendant’s flat, they would go upstairs and have sex on a mattress in the bedroom," Mr Bassano said.
"She told police she was being bullied at school around this time and would go to his home.
"On one occasion she had acquired a bottle of tequila that she had taken from her mother after a row at home. She took it to the defendant’s house and they drank it together.
''He then asked her complainant, 'are you up for it'. She didn’t say yes and she didn’t say no as she was 'pretty much out of control' and she told the police she just lay on her back and let the room spin."
The court heard that sometime after that, the complainant discovered she was pregnant with the defendant’s child.
She knew the baby was the defendant’s but she had to lie to her mum.
The baby was adopted by the complainant’s sister.
"When the girl was aged five, the complainant told her mother the truth and the defendant accepts that he is the father," Mr Bassano said.
"The girl requires a wheelchair and breathing apparatus almost 24 hours a day and has a shorter than normal life expectancy.
''She expresses her anger at discovering during this investigation that the defendant is her biological father. But the Crown cannot and does not suggest there is a causal connection between her health difficulties and her parentage.''
The brother was arrested in October 2018 but denied wrongdoing in police interview.
His lawyer Benjamin Knight said: "He knows this is something which should not have happened and must never happen again.
‘’His father died when he was in 20s and he took that exceptionally badly. He has a low risk of reoffending or committing further sexual offences, and a low risk of serious harm and sexual harm.''
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But sentencing Judge Hilary Manley told the defendant: "What happened to your victim in childhood has ruined her life. What happened is stuck in her mind forever.
"You were in your 20s and and living with your girlfriend but engaged in sexual activity with your sister who was still a child. She was extremely vulnerable.''
The brother will have to sign the Sex Offender Register for life.
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And they also always use condoms, would it still bother you?
And yes they are both of legal age as well
If a brother and sister both happily consent to sex with each other.....
Alright. I'm going to do this anonymously for reasons that will become clear. Please read to the END before replying with OMG GROSS!

I got my sister pregnant.

Details. One, she's not actually my sister. She's the 1/2 sister of my 1/2 sister. (No blood relation at all). Two, she's a lesbian. Three, she (and her partner) wanted a child (with my sister carrying). Four, IVF is really expensive.

With all that in mind, my sister asked me (and my GF) about 2 years ago would I be willing to be a sperm donor and also would I be willing to do it in the 'traditional' sense. The sperm donor part made sense (Know the father, no legal issues in the future, known medical background, child can 'meet' father as 'uncle' before hand and so on). The arguement for method was a tricky one, with me feeling the most unconfortable about it. However, at the end of the day, we all (my GF, my 'sis' and her partner).

Joanne was born on 8th May 2010.

Perhaps not kinky, but defiantly unusual. Also, it's not a huge secret. The immediate family know. We're actually in discussions now about a potential sibling.
I should say, this is a copy and paste from a similar question. There is a line missing, which is "However, at the end of the day, we all (my GF, my 'sis' aner her partner) agreeded that the cost was to extreme to avoid 'weirdness'."

As for a sibling. We (same group) have decided to try for another starting mid january next year (lines up with work).
No, not at all, so long as both happily consent and are fully aware of what they are doing, then I see nothing wrong with it, in fact it can be a highly loving amazing experience that can not be matched with a non related relationship.
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it would only bother me if I knew about it, and I can't imagine why I would ever know about a brother and sister doing this? lol it's not like I ask every person I meet if they f*ck their sibling. and it would only bother me by grossing me out for a split second, after that I really could give 2 sh*ts what other people do... I have my own life with my own problems, I don't waste my time worrying about other peoples.
Precisely. Who cares what people do?
WHAT THE HELL IS WITH PEOPLE GETTING CONFUSED ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH YOUR SIBLINGS! Or any relative for that matter. You don't have god damn sex with your mother, father, brother, sister, grandma, grandpa, uncle, aunt, cousin! Any I've missed!? It's so f***ed up. Get you head on straight people.
Actually it's still legal in a number of countries and states to marry your cousin.

Chance for genetic problem from 2 strangers - 4%

Chance for genetic problem from 2 cousins - 6-8%

And that's first cousins. 2nd cousins and onwards is virtually the same. Marrying cousins is loosing "popularity", but it's still done a bit and there's not really that many a issue behind it. Einstien did, so did Darwin.
It god damn morals, I don't give a sh*t if its legal, my god its sick. Really!
Why is it sick? It's legal, it's genetically pretty much the same (having a baby at 40 is FAR MORE likely to cause issues then having a baby with your cousin). So, why is there a problem? Just because YOU personally wouldn't want to do it, why is it "SICK" and "DAMN MORALS"? Cousin marriages have existed for years. Hell even in Gone With The Wind!
You clearly can't be reasoned with. Do what you want.
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this guy just wants to get a rise out of people and probably wants to get off on your reactions so don't this guy much thought.
Its frowned upon because its genetically wrong. People are programmed to try to spread out their genes, so that theirs is the predominant ones. If its only spread to a family member, then the mission isn't completed, the genes only get mixed up and no new chance for mutation.

On a more personal sense, I don't think its wrong for two consenting adults to have sex.
Thinking about it from another point of view, it also effects the bonds of family and all that jazz. Family is supposedly the one thing you can always rely on, and it wouldn't be a good idea to mess with it.
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That depends on their age: if the youngest is adult, I wouldn't care.


Why do you keep asking this question, its wrong simple as that.
But why is it wrong. You guys keep on saying that with no reason.
By wrong I mean morally wrong from a religious perspective. Also its no a good idea because babies between siblings have a much higher likelihood of defects. Example the royal family of England almost all have sickle cell anemia because of their imbreeding. All in all its just not a good idea, but if you put yourself on the same level as dogs, then go for it.
I think you and your sister should get married and make sweet sweet love. You could get in on all night long. If you want to know my opinion its kinda messed up. As long as you don't develop any major psychological problems you should be alright. Have you ever thought about f*cking one of your cousins maybe they are available. Don't forget about your mom. some people are just too weird!
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She'll probably slap your face (an hit much more) if you try
But they are consenting. Absolutely no forcing involved at all. And they respect if they refuse each other for any reason.
No. I've read several stoyies where they build a strong relationsip off of it. I wouldn't mind doing so myself honesly
Lol, just for asking a controversial question, I'm a troll. ok. How about this? If they are both responsible and consenting adults and understand any risks involved, does it really matter?
There are billions of people in this world,and the only other person you can find to have sex with is a family member,someone with the same DNA and parents as you.I understand if they are two consenting adults who understand the risks,but does that make it right?No
So if you understand, then why is that wrong?
Let's see,billions of people in the world,all you can do is engage in incest
It's pathetic and sick.And those who engage in such acts are not mentally/emotionally healthy.It's an unusual mental attachment.Did you bring this up cause you're sleeping with a sibling?(not trynna pry into your life)
So we're back at the 'pathetic and sick' thing. More than likely that is just because you've been taught as everyone else has that its wrong without ever learning of any concrete evidence as to why it is wrong. It's a social construct, just like homosexuality being wrong was a social construct years ago. There's really no proof that those who do this are always mentally unhealthy neither. They could be happy as can be for all you know.


And finally, no I am not sleeping with any of my siblings nor do I want to because I'm not attracted to them. That's really all it comes down to, is attraction. I simply don't see any harm between two consenting responsible adults that happen to be siblings have sex with each other and also always use condoms.

And just to be clear. I think 'inbreeding' is wrong. but consensual incest is ok in my book.
It is an unhealthy attachment to engage in sexual activities as kids,of course,i've heard of little kids(cousins or siblings) engaging experimenting with each other(not that I'm defending such behaviors)

I was not taught it was wrong,i go by what I believe,not what others try to force down my throat,i actually became interested in learning more about siblings who do such(no I did not engage) but I watched documentaries and stil have no reason to believe it is right either
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You guys have the same parents. both of you should go find someone who isn't related to you have sex with.
Why does that make it gross that you have the same parents?
It's against normal human nature. and you know it because you wouldn't be asking this question if you didn't think there was something wrong with incest.
I'm only asking because everybody 'assumes' its wrong. Just like people a century ago 'assumed' it was 'wrong' to have sex outside of marriage (and some still do today).

What's wrong with two consenting adults having sex with each other?

Saying its 'against human nature' is simply an excuse. Unless you have proof that it is?
Anyone with a healthy mentality would not have sex with their sibling
It is against human nature. sex = babies, babies with a sibling = increased likelyhood of undesirable recessive genetic traits.

i know you're saying that protection will be used, but the purpose of sex is reproductive and the humans, with normal tendencies, are naturally repulsed by the idea of sex with a blood relative.
Yeah, but think of it like he asked: "If they use a condom", Which would most likely NOT result in babies I'm not saying it's right to have sex with a sibling, but who knows, it may not be frowned upon like 200 years into the future? Homosexuality was also thought of as a mental illness, but it's really just preferences?
"Anyone with a healthy mentality would not have sex with their sibling."

And if it happens they aren't 'mentally unhealthy?' That they can go one each day normally with an upbeat attitude?
Also if the condom breaks and she get pregnant the baby will have birth defects because the DNA will copy over and give you a baby which is birth defected =(
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