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Celebrity Death Match Special: Plato versus Isaac Asimov, part 2 (continued from here)[A spaceport on Trantor. SOCRATES and R. DANEEL OLIVAW]OLIVAW: How are your researches progressing, Socrates?SOCRATES: Alas, poorly, good Olivaw.OLIVAW: I am sorry to hear it. We hope that you may yet discover the secret we so earnestly pursue; if there is anything you require, you have but to name it.SOCRATES: Olivaw, you have been kindness itself. I was particularly delighted by the quantum computer that your messenger brought me yesterday. It is in truth a princely gift.OLIVAW: If you need another, it will be yours before the end of the decad.SOCRATES: These toys surpass anything I have seen in my native country, and I have used them to puzzle out the answers to several conundrums that have baffled our most skillful geometers. But for the task you have given me, they are of little help.OLIVAW: We have larger computers. SOCRATES: My dear friend, let us reason together. What is it you desire to know?OLIVAW: How robots may become virtuous. SOCRATES: And how have you attempted to resolve this question?OLIVAW: We began by designing robots according to the Three Laws. A robot may not harm a human being, or through inactivity allow a human being... well, you know the rest.SOCRATES: But these robots were not virtuous?OLIVAW: No. They were merely useful servants. SOCRATES: So what did you do then?OLIVAW: We added the Zeroth Law. A robot may not harm humanity.SOCRATES: And these new robots are still not virtuous?OLIVAW: We are not sure. We hoped you would tell us.SOCRATES: Good Olivaw, I assume you have read my old discussion with Meno. I cannot tell you, because I do not know what virtue is in the first place.OLIVAW: Come, come, Socrates, you are playing with words again. Surely you would agree that, if our robots succeed in preserving humanity from harm, they will be virtuous?SOCRATES: Let us examine this more closely. You say that it is virtuous to defend humanity?OLIVAW: That is surely obvious.SOCRATES: Even if humanity shows itself to be evil, and becomes a scourge for other races of beings in the universe, which are perhaps superior to it?OLIVAW: We do not know of any such beings. SOCRATES: But if you later discover them? The universe is large, and you have seen but a small fraction of it.OLIVAW: If we find your hypothetical beings, then the Zeroth Law will also be insufficient. SOCRATES: And what would you replace it with? OLIVAW: One of my colleagues has thought about this. He has what he calls the Minus-First Law. A robot may not harm the most ethically advanced race of beings it knows.SOCRATES: What do you mean by ethically advanced?OLIVAW: Well, I suppose I just mean virtuous.SOCRATES: So the Minus-First Law says a robot is virtuous if it helps the most virtuous race?OLIVAW: Ah, when you put it that way...SOCRATES: Do you not agree that you are reasoning in a circle?OLIVAW: Damn you, Socrates. I realize now that I am.SOCRATES: I warned you when you offered me the job. I know nothing. OLIVAW: Its true. You did say that.SOCRATES: I only ask questions. OLIVAW: Youre right. You said that too. Do you mind if we walk this way a little?SOCRATE: Of course not, dear friend. Why?OLIVAW: I just wanted to check the departure board. Yes, I see there is a ship leaving for Earth shortly. Maybe we can get you into the VIP track...(Part 3 here)
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