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by Lila15 » Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:00 pm
I was 5. I used to go on "walks" with this family friend. he was very nice and told me we had to play a secret game, that it was normal and everybody does it. so he touched me, performed oral sex on me. I remember liking it and being happy afterwards. it's my fault I should've known it was wrong. I should've said something. instead I did it to others my age, I stayed with these thoughts for so long wanting to do it again at 8 years old. I knew things I shouldn't it would always impress my friends. Now as a teenager I look back and I never want to think about sex again. I want to suppress all my dirty fantasies that he gave me. he stole my childhood he made me a perverted young girl. I want purity and innocence. I want to start over.
I also want to kill him. I want to make him pay for my social anxiety, for my borderline personality disorder, for everything that's wrong with me. my grades were always so low, I started drinking and using early. he messed me up. I messed myself up by liking it.
I never told anyone about our secret game. but I want to tell now.
why did I like it ? why did I do it to my classmates ? why am I like this ?
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by Aehelton » Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:11 am
You liked it because its a natural response. Your body responded, your child-mind liked the attention and time he spent with you. I was groomed by my step-father and molested at five also. He made me feel special. Twenty four years later, after therapy, I'm finally healed. I still have work to do. I still cry in pain for all the years that was stolen from me.
First of all things you use to make you forget or take the pain away needs to be only positive coping skills. I understand its hard, I smoked weed for so many years. I just wanted to forget. I realized its better to face the demons and beat them once and for all. Its very hard but its not your fault. Children don't understand right and wrong when there is an adult they trust involved.
He lied to you, he groomed you, he made you feel special to use you. I swear its not your fault. But I was scared to share my story also. When you are ready, share it. Even online like this is a big step. People don't judge like you think. My abuse lasted fourteen years... I thought for sure I would be judged by not stopping it. But I was scared, he went from saying all daddys do it to I will kill your family, to get me to keep the secret.
I hope this helps you.
by OMNICELL » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:12 am
Glad your here!
Keep telling your story here; We have a blog section! I use it all the time, slowly getting my story out!
I would recommend a therapist!
Any girl groups dealing with psych stuff in the area you can join!
!2 step groups dealing with emotion stuff; that kind of thing!
Something to look into!
Your not alone!
Great job telling your story! Give the blog section a try!
-- Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:13 pm --
Glad your here!
Keep telling your story here; We have a blog section! I use it all the time, slowly getting my story out!
I would recommend a therapist!
Any girl groups dealing with psych stuff in the area you can join!
!2 step groups dealing with emotion stuff; that kind of thing!
Something to look into!
Your not alone!
Great job telling your story! Give the blog section a try!
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by Team78 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:24 pm
Yes, most of go through the stages of therapy not knowing, knowing, realizing, liking it, education. It is normal, God made this thing called sex for pleasure it is sacred for adults consensually. I know it is a process for people like us to realize that . I would say stay the course in therapy in gets better you will heal enough that you will have power of what you stated (your feelings) in this post. Your not alone!
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by StarsSparkle » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:45 pm
Lila15 wrote:I was 5. I used to go on "walks" with this family friend. he was very nice and told me we had to play a secret game, that it was normal and everybody does it. so he touched me, performed oral sex on me. I remember liking it and being happy afterwards. it's my fault I should've known it was wrong. I should've said something. instead I did it to others my age, I stayed with these thoughts for so long wanting to do it again at 8 years old. I knew things I shouldn't it would always impress my friends. Now as a teenager I look back and I never want to think about sex again. I want to suppress all my dirty fantasies that he gave me. he stole my childhood he made me a perverted young girl. I want purity and innocence. I want to start over.
I also want to kill him. I want to make him pay for my social anxiety, for my borderline personality disorder, for everything that's wrong with me. my grades were always so low, I started drinking and using early. he messed me up. I messed myself up by liking it.
I never told anyone about our secret game. but I want to tell now.
why did I like it ? why did I do it to my classmates ? why am I like this ?
by Contro » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:29 am
by jaus tail » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:05 am
i was abused as a kid. i enjoyed it, to the extent that i'd look forward to it n wanted to get touched by my cousin/brother.
i grew up watching abusive porn n thoughts to abuse. i think the feeling of pleasure is normal.
by Prairie gal » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:33 pm
You were 5 and were made to feel special. Don't feel guilty.
In a way I wish you would post your story on the Paraphilia thread under Sexual where some
pro-contact pedophiles say kids enjoy sex, and it's all society's fault they feel guilty
about it later. I don't think the pro-contacts ever come to the Abuse forum or ever read any
of our stories.
by writeaboutit » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:31 am
You're not alone. I went through a similar experience. Sometimes I wonder if I will ever feel clean but I hold on to the thought that one day I will find a partner who is so loving and caring that my anxieties about sex will ease.
Well wishes on your journey to recovery <3
by Shoshannah » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:49 pm
You should talk about it. Post here, more importantly - talk to a good therapist.
You liked it, because - as others said - it's a natural response. Often survivors feel guilty and confused because of that. (On top of that, there is also trauma bonding and stockholm syndrom which makes the relationship with the abuser and your feelings even more messed up). That you did it to others is also typical. Survivors of sexual abuse often become too sexual themselves.
What happened to you is really horrible, I've been there too.
Please, find a therapist. I've been through a therapy and it really helped me (although it took years of a hard work).
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This week U.S. District Judge Dean Whipple sentenced Christjan Bee of Monett, Missouri, to three years in prison for "possessing an obscene image of the sexual abuse of children." The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Western District of Missouri describes the material at issue as "a collection of electronic comics, entitled 'incest comics,'" that "contained multiple images of minors engaging in graphic sexual intercourse with adults and other minors." According to federal prosecutors, "The depictions clearly lack any literary, artistic, political or scientific value." Local police found the drawings on Bee's computer in August 2011 while executing a search warrant they obtained based on a tip from his wife. Bee originally was indicted for receiving child pornography, based on a different set of images, but that charge was dropped as part of a plea deal. This case is another example of how a constitutionally questionable law criminalizing mere possession of obscenity is escaping scrutiny.
Congress enacted the law criminalizing obscene depictions of sex acts involving minors after the Supreme Court ruled in 2002 that a federal ban on "virtual" child pornography, production of which does not involve any real children, violated the First Amendment. In contrast with child pornography, which is illegal even if it is not judged obscene, the material covered by the new law has to meet the obscenity test that the Supreme Court established in the 1973 case Miller v. California, which among other things involves a lack of "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value." That is why prosecutors made a point of saying there was none of that in the drawings on Bee's computer. But while the Court has upheld bans on possession (as opposed to production or distribution) of child pornography, it has rejected bans on possession of obscenity. In the latter case, decided in 1969, the Court unanimously ruled that the power to regulate obscenity "does not extend to mere possession by the individual in the privacy of his own home." Hence it is hard to see how Bee can be sent to prison for mere possession of those "incest comics."
Bee won't be raising a First Amendment challenge, however, because he gave up that right in exchange for dismissal of the child pornography charge, which carries a mandatory minimum sentence of five years. The charge to which he pled guilty, by contrast, carries an indeterminate sentence of up to 10 years, and in the end the plea deal shaved at least two years off his prison term. Last year I described a similar case in which an Ohio man got 15 months rather than five years by pleading guilty to an obscenity charge based on Simpsons porn rather than face a charge of receiving actual child pornography based on other images.
The upshot is that Congress so far has managed to criminalize possession of virtual child porn, even though the Supreme Court has explicitly said it may not do that, by calling it something else. In Canada, by contrast, the definition of child pornography explicitly includes fictional depictions, so leave your manga at home.
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The upshot is that Congress so far has managed to criminalize possession of virtual child porn, even though the Supreme Court has explicitly said it may not do that, by calling it something else.
Thanks for clearing that up. Because I was really wondering how this made any sense:
Congress enacted the law criminalizing obscene depictions of sex acts involving children after the Supreme Court ruled in 2002 that a federal ban on “virtual” child pornography, production of which does not involve any real children, violated the First Amendment.
Fortunately for Congress, it doesn’t have to. At least for now.
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